It says you have to talk to an admissions officer first? Is that really necessary? And if anyone’s done so last year, can you outline the process you go through, how you presented your info, etc?
Also, what is the line between Low-Income and Not Low-Income?
Does this sound like reasonable grounds for an appeal?
My dad’s unemployed, I put my mom makes 60,000 a year when in reality it’s 58,000 (this is why i want to know the income line). But in reality her salary is only around 45,000, but she works graveyard shift as a Postal Clerk (where you are required to stand the whole time) six days a week. Also, she’s had to pay for an operation (hernia) I had last year as well as loans on the house so in reality we’re left with barely any money in the bank. At her age (she’s 55) she says she can’t keep up this overtime much longer, so for the year of 2005, our income is going to be significantly lower.
Also, I didn’t have enough room to emphasize my duties working on the school website. All I put was that I was a Site Administrator and Athletics Editor, [here’s new info] but now I’m Co-Webmaster and I teach the class. The teacher only acts as an advisor, I’m fully responsible for the content that must go on the site and for instructing the web design team in different programming languages, assigning homework, grading it, etc.
Oh yeah and they had one of my SAT II scores wrong, but it was only off by 20 points.
<p>To be honest, I don't think anything you've written is grounds for appeal. Keep in mind that there are more and more dissapointed students going back to appeal each year. Something substantive has to change.</p>
<p>But does having 3 different Scores worng make grounds for an appeal</p>
<p>1) My reported SAT I had the wrong date so it conflicted with one that was official</p>
<p>2) My reproted SAT II had the wrong date so it looked like I took four tests (if you include the SAT I that had the wrong date above) in one month which is not plausible</p>
<p>3) And lastly they did not even have my most recent Official Test score which is what I was stating in 1)</p>
<p>So basically a lot of things are screwed up.</p>
<p>Again anybody think thats grounds for an appeal.</p>
<p>Or if I go to UCI is tranfering necessarily easier to UCSD?</p>
<p>I think I might appeal also. I got into UCLA, so that's good enough for me. Anyways...I think there's something wrong with my scores. Under self reported, it says that I took SAT2 english composition. But up @ top, where it lists official test scores, there's sat2 writing and there's a whole bunch of official reported test scores.</p>
<p>I believe it's easier to transfer from a CC to a UC than from another UC. CC students get priority.</p>
<p>I didn't report my mom's income until last month in a letter. Her net income was below $0, due to all the debts that are still being paid off from my dad's death six years ago. (That's like, 500 points to my application.) :\ I need to know if they considered my letter or if they screwed it up as did UCSB (marked it as a cancellation request). Do I appeal or simply call the admissions office? I'm thinking calling right now would be futile if they're cranky from the thousands of calls they must be getting.</p>
<p>they screwed up all of my SAT scores too. it says i took the SAT and SAT II on the same day. they screwed up a lot peoples SAT scores. i doubt it mattered in determining our decisions.</p>
<p>What they will tell you is that the points are a guide for them, nothing cast in stone and certainly not something you should be using to figure out if you're in. They employ comprehensive review and the process is therefore subjective.</p>
<p>Someone may come from a home with $40K in income but 2 parents with PhDs. Do you give that candidate the same advantage as a poor, minority, first generation student? The same points to a kid who is poor but went to a good suburban high school and a poor kid in the LA ghetto?</p>
<p>The issue is, no one is guaranteed admission. They read your application and look at the whole picture. Saying you're sure you have the points to get in will **** them off.</p>
<p>There is a lot of talk about appeals even though someone posted the stats on success with appeals. IT'S NOT GOOD!!!!!! Especially at the better UCs. You need a real reason.</p>
<p>Bottom line is that the UCs are crazy for having an appeals process which has come to seem to be the natural next step for all rejected applicants rather than moving on and finding your best opportunity. The counselor at my children's school spent most of last week trying to explain this to dissapointed kids. My heart breaks for all of those who did not get their first choice school. But that's life and most who do not have a real reason for appeal would be better off looking at their real prospects.</p>
<p>Zagat, I understand where you're coming from, but as long as I have a small chance of overturning my rejection, I will go for it.</p>
<p>I'm not going to write that with those extra points I'll have enough to get in. Quite frankly, I don't think I'll meet the cutoff even with the additional points. But I made a mistake and I want a reconsideration with all mistakes corrected.</p>
<p>The appeal process is long and is a waste of time unless you have dramatic new evidence to bring to the admissions table. You need to select an advocate and that advocate must work through you for formal appeals ground. Wrong scores can be misinterpreted as your fault. Having new curriculars isn't worth an ounce of their time. </p>
<p>My friend, UCLA rejected him, is contemplating appealing. He has GREAT grounds. He neglected to let them know that he cannot walk and has to deal with immense pain and has managed to get through high school despite that. He's incredibly prideful and refused to put that down, but should he want to have UCLA, he will have to play that card. His advocate has known him for 2 years. He was, however, accepted by UCSD.</p>
<p>I'm glad everyone on this thread is so negative. I may not have incredibly strong grounds, but I have grounds and I will try whether it works or not. It's better than sitting back and taking it.</p>
<p>Eiffelguy, I'm sorry about your friend, I hope his appeal goes through.</p>
<p>By all means appeal, it can't hurt. Just don't allow yourself to be emotionally involved to the degree I sense is going on with many here. The healthy approach is to assume you need to choose another school and get comfortable with that. Should you be one of the few an appeal works for, it can be a nice surprise.</p>
<p>The UCs are now really no different than any other school that reviews a whole application rather than just stats. They can and do reject people with higher than their average stats and let in some with lower stats. I'm hearing a tone of entitlement from many where UCs are concerned and a strange attitude that suggests you can get into a UC just by saying how much you were counting on going. This is no longer the 90s!</p>
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Participation in pre-collegiate/motivational and enrichment programs: AVID, EAOP, commercial and school test preparation courses, etc.
bullet 1 year: 75 pts
bullet 2 years: 150 pts
bullet 3+ years: 300 pts
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<p>School test preparation courses? My school offers SAT Prep courses that are required. I didn't think it would make a difference since it is required, although it is not a "class" and is not in the transcript. Do you think it would make a difference if I said I had SAT prep in my school which I attended?</p>