I think it’s yield protection, OOS.
This is something I stressed during the pandemic etc. Lots of questions about sending without scores. Nothing is going to replace real scores. They will look at other things since they kinda have to right now. Of course some kids “couldn’t” take the Act /sat tests do what is a university to do?
Again, 53,000 or do applications, probably total close to 80, 000 applications. If anyone knows of the secret sauce to get admitted they could be rich by now. As I posted above one thing I stressed was review the mission statements of all colleges your applying to when writing the essays. It helps to let them know you belong on their campus.
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We received our financial aid package last night via email with all of our documents submitted for review in November. I would expect something soon.
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Unpopular opinion (I think): yield protection doesn’t really exist. I think people forget umich is a t25 school and the #1 public school- it’s not all about stats. They would much rather take a student with a 31 act who they think really fits the school then a student with a 36, people should stop saying they were yield protected bcz it minimizes the accomplishments of those who got in.
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i don’t think it’s meant to minimize anything, rather i think it’s more of an accomplishment to the kids that got in right away. i think the whole idea of yield protection is to display that the university has a high number of kids applying and they need to see who is actually interested. i think it also gives kids hope who didn’t originally get in.
@Knowsstuff is it confirmed that the february and march decisions are acceptances and the late march/early april decisions are waitlists and rejections for EA deferred applicants?
or is it just speculation?
For all of the top schools yield is a key component of their ranking. If you are a top school and not worried about yield in some way shape or form you should make sure your resume is updated.
Forget the ranking point, just look at the chimpanzee optics, “wow, XYZ looks like a great school, but why do only 11 percent of the people they accept actually want to go there?”
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I agree with what someone commented previously in this thread - I don’t think they yield protect in the sense that they look at an app and think “oh this student will probably get into an Ivy and pick that over us, so we won’t accept them” - but I do think they try to admit the students they think will actually attend UMich. So I guess technically, if a school is admitting students they think will actually enroll there, that is a form of “yield protection” but not in the sense that people think.
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it just gets toxic when people say they didn’t get in because they were too good- it makes people doubt actually getting in
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I agree that they care about their yield rate- that’s why they prefer legacies, do a ton of marketing, demonstrated interest, etc. But it’s naive to think that an ao looks at an applicant and goes “he might get into an ivy and won’t ever come here so we shouldn’t admit him even though he’s a fantastic fit and we love his application”
Well said. I agree. It’s the editorial that they provide with the scores that is not necessary. Fair.
When we see, “1580, 4.0/4.6, 10 APs -all 4/5s - REJECTED” We know the system is broken. We don’t need the editorial.
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this is fair- i think it has much much more to do with legacy status, financial ability, demonstrated interest, etc
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UM somehow knows how to choose the kids fit into the school., they do not rely stat only. My S18 top stat, accepted at COE. Quite a few of his HS friends average stat, accepted also. But all of them did extremely well at UM, good grades, top company internships. One observation I have, all of them have true passion, very dedicated and hardworking.
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i personally don’t know people who think they were too good to get in. i think the concept of yielding is to see genuine interest however i completely disagree if someone thinks they were postponed (yielded) because they think they’re “too good” to get in
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i don’t necessarily think it means the system is “broken” but rather that its highly competitive and colleges care more about stats- other than that ya i think we see it it the same way.
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Yes, but if I were the boss, when I did an AOs Review at year end - I would have tons of data in front of me and I would say “Sammy, you had a great year and you are a great member of the team, but as you go into this year, I want you to think about why the yield in your acceptances was 14 points below our group wide yield?”
That was not my point and I was not downplaying DD22’s accomplishments (who was accepted EA). It cannot NOT be a thing for a school if they have never had a valedictorian attend from an OOS STEM-focused school that has as many as 5% class enroll. I too would defer if I were an AO and put the valedictorian deferee into a pile for April (post Ivy day).
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Again, it’s all data. The schools have the data. We all have tiny little snippets of data.
If College Confidential was locked in and trying to make a billion dollar company, they would go to Naviance and merge that anonymous data with all the CC data which we would all readily provide and then sell collated data to us. And we would buy it.
Then we would know a lot more and would not be guessing or making decisions based on three pieces of data. And myths like “test optional is fine” would be fixed.
does anyone know a tentative release date for EA deferred applicants?