Her ACT falls in line with the middle 50th percentile for overall UM admits. For LSA/psych, her reading and English scores would be prioritized over math and science, so I do not believe they balked at her ACT. Did she have a superscore? UM is finally looking at that this year.
Do you think she effectively provided evidence of any skills, experience or academic interest in Psychology in her essays, EC or course load? That is something an AO would look for on her application as well.
Bingo.
Somewhere way up this thread, I expressed virtually the same thing you are saying about Kines at UM and the difficulty with getting in this program over LSA, and the how well-established it is that UM âsaves seatsâ for athletes here in what is a smaller, highly-competitive major. But someone argued with that saying no one on the basketball team was a Kines major so I must be mistaken 
Itâs a great program, that is hard to get into that itâs only getting better and more competitive - thatâs the bottom line.
My point wasnât that you were totally mistaken, but I wasnât convinced that seats were held because in my small sampling, there didnât seem to be as many athletes in the school of kinesiology as you were saying. I understand you disagreeing with me, especially if you have evidence and not assumptions/rumors about kinesiology seats, but am not sure why you needed to laugh at me.
@CCName1 - it seems as if you are always looking for definitive facts. We donât have those for anything in this process. If we did, we wouldnât be here trying to square the circle and read tea leaves.
But, generally people are well intentioned and trying to put together a theory.
But you are completely convinced that test optional is a lie, and assert this without evidence. As I said before, I agree that Michigan is not a true test optional (they say test flexible) school, but when you tell a poster that her daughter not submitting scores causes an AO to assume a 1080 SAT, thatâs detrimental.
I wouldnât advise a majority student to submit a test score that is below a schoolâs 75% range, especially to a highly selective school. This opinion is based on the advice our private counselor gave and the having a relative who is an AO at an Ivy.
Contrary to your frequent assertions, at test optional schools AOs arenât making assumptions and expressing them somewhere about TO. They are using a rubric. If a student submits scores, those scores are used in the initial rubric. If they donât, they arenât. There is a calculation that pushes them to the next level with a given score on the rubric. At many schools the test scores may not be revisited because they made it to the second review.
I am not expressing my 75% or higher opinion here all the time because itâs based on expert advice and I donât have the data to back it up.
As far as the kinesiology situation, I am guessing the other poster is correct and backed down 100s of comments uo thread, so I am not sure why he needs to laugh at people/comments.
Talk about small sample sizes. 
I donât know how many Kinesiology seats are âreservedâ for student athletes, but using the menâs basketball team as a sample represents 17 players of 900+ total student athletes. Itâs a bit like using CC as a sample of the 80,000 apps to Michigan. 
I totally agree and backed down on the comment probably 300 posts ago!
Sorry, I only saw it a few posts ago.
There are 100âs of professional counselors on this site and most parents here have one helping their kid.
Test Optional has been unfortunate. Test Flexible is a better term.
The schools canât say that Test Optionsl makes admission tougher - if they said that it would kill the spirit of what they are trying to do.
We donât have the data yet. Time might tell. But my gut is - seeing lots of chatter and knowing 200+ real time examples of friends we know well over the past 24 months of living this with two kids back to back - test optional was misleading and unfortunate.
The smiley face was intended to keep it light, as I found it humorous that somehow the basketball team served as the final word on whether what I posted was valid or not. I apologize if it came across as laughing at you â that sincerely was not my intention. My post is based on both professional experience as a counselor and with my D18.
I appreciate your insights throughout this thread.
where did you get the information that they assume a 1080 SAT if a student went test optional?
This will give the Act /Sat conversion to get a clue
Lol⊠They have always sorta looked at superscores but not in the traditional sense. They would âlookâ at the highest scores from one sitting on multiple tests. So they wouldnât officially superscore per se but it worked to your advantage to send in multiple tests if you had them. They get it that not everyoneâs best day is the standardized test day.
This was a bad example I used. Made up.
Not real data. My only point was that I was afraid that no tests may lead them to believe our tests were very low.
No where. Itâs a false assertion and I think was a mistake. Donât worry.
okay thank you, I was nervous!!
So when someone posts their stats or kids stats since they are not coming in fast and furious anymore maybe congratulate them instead of drilling for gold 
⊠Then ask away. We like to keep this forum light since itâs an emotional stressful time for many.
Also you do you but conversations going round and round leading to nowhere donât benefit those looking for answers.
Sports talk is always encouraged 
Yes, the admissions page says as much. I guess I was referring to the small change for the c/o 2025 and 2026 where the student can send that official superscore report from the testing center as additional score information. Maybe thatâs just a money grab from ACT/SAT though.
Her superscore is a 32. I think her essay was very good. She showed quite a bit of detail in her interest and knowledge of the psych program. She also shared insight into how she chose this major, including her experience with AP Psych and a summer psych program at Gtwon she participated in. Thanks for the insight and support!
kinda unrelated but could the perception that Michigan yield protects be from the fact that some applicants are in state and others out of state? Since people donât necessarily post their state residency, I can see the idea of yield protection being misconstrued when an instate applicant with lower stats posts about how they got accepted and an oos applicant with higher stats posts about getting deferred?