My kids hate nature I think that was one of the arguments my daughter presented to housing her freshman yearâŠ.but it worked, they switched her dorm. (so much for âyou get what you get and you donât get upsetâ)
Completely understood but we arenât Californians and on an extremely strict budget as is for dorm living, we are extremely fortunate to have received extremely generous aid and scholarships (still some outstanding so a chance for even more, but it wouldnât be possible without these things for us, even instate) so any potential for more cost in the following years is definitely on our radar.
Thank you for the information, hopefully this wonât be an issue!
Btw, when the time comes, be sure your daughter mentions to housing that she observes Shabbos, they will do their best to accommodate her so sheâs close to Hillel.
I wish and your D the best.
My D18 is coming home after her graduation this Spring. Sheâll/weâll miss A2.
Yes, thank you!!
Thank you!! She is very thankful and excited about U of M!
Congratulations to your daughter, and best wishes after graduation!!
Fwiw, itâs also been floated on many other CC school forums this year with large numbers of applicants/deferrals.
A 40% increase in applications doesnât mean a 40% increase in acceptances. Schools enroll pretty much the same number students every year. Accepting 5,000 of 40,000 and accepting 5,100 of 60,000 the next means there are many more deferred/rejected students. Thatâs just how it is. The âlarge numberâ of these should come as no surprise.
AFAIK, UM says you may hear on EA day or âearly Aprilâ. UM has no role in âI know a guy, who knows a guy who told meâ, or âbased on last yearâs dataâ or âI saw three pixels change on the websiteâ.
In terms of âhandling of communicationsâ - maybe I just missed all of the misleading communications from official UM sources saying âdeferred EA decisions will be released this Fridayâ and then not following through. Can someone clarify where official sources have committed to anything but âearly Aprilâ?
Cornell has always said âApplicants are notified in early April of Cornellâs decision.â I donât see the anger at their âmisleadingâ communication on the Cornell forum.
Old article, but privatization has been bandied about:
It was even discussed here on CC back in 2009:
When looking to save money, Michigan began looking at the funding to Michigan.
Some claim, sure, but much of the $17 Billion has been raised by donations, restricted or not.
Having specific dates of releases would be a bonus. 4/1/22 or any other date would be preferable to âearly Aprilâ. Not sure why the dates are so secret? But alas I doubt UMich will ask for my brilliant ideas so here we are!
In a word, precedent. The vast majority of schools have fairly established precedent as to how and when they release, and outside of maybe an adjustment during Covid theyâve maintained that schedule pretty consistently. Applicants know the process. They may or may not know the exact date of the release far in advance, but they know the range. As that date approaches, most peer schools give a heads up officially to the students, letting them know when to check their portals. This alleviates so much of the âwaitingâ stress for nervous teens.
Your reference to Cornell is actually the best example/argument for this point. Cornell releases on Ivy Day, with every other school at the exact same time every year. These kids know when they apply that theyâre going to hear within a 1-2 week timeline end of March/early April, and by January or February they pretty much know the exact date.
UM has a precedent. It used to be EA in December (with lots of postponements), and then waves in the early part of the year. For those lucky enough to be accepted in December, this also allowed many other students from OOS to not overwhelm another half dozen schools with their apps, as UM would be a superior choice for them. Anyway, after Covid, UM went to the late January approachâŠwith several following waves for postponed.
The problem is- unlike almost all other peer schools, UM doesnât ever provide advance notice of these waves. One of the closest peer schools for OOS- UVA- is VERY particular. Hereâs our EA date. Accept/defer/reject. If deferred, you will hear on the exact date our RD folks hear, itâll be late March, and weâll tell you 3-4 days in advance when to check. UM? Just keep kids looking at past precedent, trying to figure out when it might come out.
I understand itâs easy for parents not involved in the postponement process to say âI donât understand? Why not just wait until itâs out, and then check!â or other similar statements. That doesnât quite account for the psyche of the average teenager (which bleeds into the pysche of the average parent, who lives and dies with their studentâs emotions during this time).
Our Dâs GC made a great analogy. It is like a relationship. If the other person breaks up with you and thereâs absolutely no chance it might rekindleâŠyou go through the break up, process emotions, and eventually move on. But if itâs a breakup where you MIGHT get back together? Thatâs the hardest, because you sit there pining for the other. Definitive situations are important, and UM is the worst of any peer school. Simply because they are not transparent, even when set precedent has been ignored.
Iâm going off of my sample of 2 HS on the east coast. So, yes, itâs not a hard and true number and certainly varies across the globe. That said, neither of those two schools has had an EA rejected in years. Literally zero. There have been a small smattering of acceptances, with every other applicant postponed. Thatâs our sample size of dozens (very small potatoes for UM, but relevant for us), and why our GC tells all of the students that theyâre being postponed when they submit their apps in October.
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This debate is going nowhere. There are two very different views about UMichâs handling of communications and their admissions process overall. For some itâs not a problem; for others itâs frustrating. As Iâve said a couple of times up thread - itâs ok to have these differences. Each side is entitled to their views and neither side is going to convince the other with their points and counter-points.
Letâs just agree to disagree and move on.
I would love to see admissions stats comparing kids from elite schools with elite GCs to those without.
Are you in state?
Oh, I wasnât saying the STATE couldnât do it. I was saying the university couldnât unilaterally âgo private.â
For those unhappy with the process please let admissions know. They wonât be tracking your personal information to your child. Little to busy for that. But at least afterwords at least. Maybe it will improve what they do in the future?
Yup, very
Congratulations for your HS at least 7 got in last week.
Oh for sure! I would have had no idea if it wasnât for Reddit haha, Iâm so disconnected and so is my son