<p>i guess so
just being polite my dear friend</p>
<p>who is apfreak anyhow</p>
<p>As a URM, I would say that you should definitely not expect any help from URM status. If anything, you should aim for the same test scores and level of achievement that non-URM's are working towards.</p>
<p>yeh ....,,,</p>
<p>"As a URM, I would say that you should definitely not expect any help from URM status. "</p>
<p>Yes, that should be your assumption while in school/taking sat's etc... However, since there's nothing you can do to change your stats now, you should know that URM status helps you out SIGNIFCANTLY....</p>
<p>And yeah, you def remind me of apfreak. He's the4e most URM obssessed person on these boards.</p>
<p>haha oh well
well im retaking sats in decemb, so thats really the last thing i can do to try to up my chances
just took a prac sat and its lookin pretty good</p>
<p>where did apfreak wanna go? :P</p>
<p>What the heck? we are not the same person...</p>
<p>"Thank you"</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>No seriously we are not the same person...I am a bit more ...LOUD and ENERGETIC in my posts...also more persistent and proud....(see...) :)</p>
<p>you are all cool so chillax</p>
<p>Lol "chillax". That word has spread like wildfire in the last several weeks. I'm gonna try and turn into the new word at my school...</p>
<p>lol .......</p>
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Yes, that should be your assumption while in school/taking sat's etc... However, since there's nothing you can do to change your stats now, you should know that URM status helps you out SIGNIFCANTLY....
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<p>URM status can't make up for everything.</p>
<p>at least its something..</p>
<p>I agree. Being a URM is "something", but don't expect too much out of it. Most colleges use URM status only as a tip factor.</p>
<p>mattcarmona, even if the use of urm status is greater than you give it credit for, adcoms will never admit to something like that, so it's impossible to tell unless you've actually sat on an adcom....btw, i'd say it's probably used more than as a tip factor...colleges need a good number of urms for public relations...why on earth would harvard have its own minority recruiting program if it just wanted to use ethnic background as a tip factor?...</p>
<p>It certainly isnt a tip factor. It is way more than that. I mean, cmon if it was a tip factor then the whole class would be white/asian. I believe it plays a large role in admissions.</p>
<p>lol there certainly are a lot of asians
i saw soo many when i went to dartmouth...
glad im not white or asian ;)</p>
<p>what's more influential...urm status or having a sibling alum?</p>
<p>DHA-
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It certainly isnt a tip factor. It is way more than that. I mean, cmon if it was a tip factor then the whole class would be white/asian. I believe it plays a large role in admissions.
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<p>When you make a statement like that, you are presupposing that admissions is, or should be were there no AA, only stats-based. This is not the case, nor will it ever be the case. Colleges look to admit students who will graduate, be successful, and donate back to the college, thus ensuring its future viability. Do you think that a white student whose parents have given them every advantage, private school, been taken to the right extracurriculars in the family minivan, benefitted from SAT prep courses to achieve those perfect stats, etc, is more likely to succeed than a minority student who has drive and proven this drive yet has not had as high a success academically because of various socioeconomic disadvantages? I would argue that if a student is used to being coddled in high school, he or she will not do well at Harvard, while someone who has proven determination will do very well.</p>
<p>And don't say presumptuous statements like "it certainly isn't a tip factor"...its more than that...because unless you've sat on an admissions committee, you can't say that. Don't give me some flippant personal example of "well my cousin wasn't admitted with a 1600 but a black student I know with a 1400 was" because I can give you back numerous instances of minority students here at Harvard with perfect or near perfect SAT and ACT scores-myself included.</p>
<p>eas, very true, but they cant take all the "overcame adversity" minorities; they need the rich ones too, because there's only so much financial aid to go around...</p>
<p>zack- This may be true at other colleges. I can only comment about Harvard since it is the only place I've ever attended. But I do not believe this to be the case. Check out the Harvard Financial Aid Initiative- which applies to ALL students regardless of race or ethnicity- at</p>
<p>"The Harvard Financial Aid Initiative (HFAI), announced by university President Lawrence Summers in March 2004, aims to reduce economic barriers to attending Harvard College by significantly expanding financial aid benefits to low and moderate income families. Students have long been admitted to Harvard regardless of their family’s financial circumstances. They are chosen on the basis of their outstanding academics extracurricular, and personal qualities, with the hope that they will bring to Harvard the widest possible diversity of life experiences and intellectual perspectives.</p>
<p>Beginning in 2004, parents in families with incomes of less than $40,000 will no longer be expected to contribute to the cost of attending Harvard for their children including room and board. In addition, Harvard will reduce the contributions expected of families with incomes between $40,000 and $60,000."</p>
<p>EAS, you're in the Harvard Minority Recruitment right? What exactly do you do?</p>
<p>wow eas
are there a lot of URM hispanics with near perfect sats that go to harvard?
if thats the case... Man I dont have a chance :( lol</p>