<p>Hey guys, I just got in off the waitlist at UNC, but i had committed to NC State, and was super excited for next year. Now I really dont know what to do. Does anyone here have experience at both colleges? one of them? I need help! Are the acedemics better at UNC? I think I will be studying business and possibly sociology, and studying spanish. UGHH im freakin out right now..</p>
<p>Well, I picked NCSU over UNC. My decision was because I thought I wanted to do engineering (but now I’m thinking math, so I could have picked either).</p>
<p>If I was in your case, this is what I would be looking at:</p>
<p>UNC seems to be more about centralized education than NCSU. Majors at UNC don’t really require that many classes (compared to the very long major-specific requirements at NCSU), there’s a greater focus on general education at UNC as well. I think in your case (not knowing what you want to study, possibly wanting to do multiple things) you’d be better off at UNC for this reason. Plus, UNC is known for its strong humanities programs.</p>
<p>The business aspect is a little more dicey. Though UNC’s business school is better in ranking than NCSU’s, you have to apply to get in (unlike NCSU’s college of management). Since you were on the edge of admissions for acceptance into UNC, this may happen again, so it’s something to definitely consider.</p>
<p>UNC and Chapel Hill are both smaller than NCSU and Raleigh. With that comes advantages and disadvantages. I like Chapel Hill as a town better, but I also like the fact that State’s letting me live off campus (they also have parking lots for all students, including Freshmen, though these can be very far away from your dorm). At UNC, Freshmen can’t have cars at all, which means getting getting a space in a private lot in a very sketchy area of Carrboro, that is not safe to walk from at night alone, IMO (experience from visiting a friend).</p>
<p>So yeah, that’s a whole lot (I apologize) and hopefully I helped you a little? I wouldn’t stress over the decision though, if you make the wrong one, you can transfer.</p>
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<p>Consider though, that by the time you apply to the B-school you’ll have two years of college behind you…that the B-school should be more likely to look at your two years of college than your high school record when deciding on admission. So if you work hard, I’m sure you’ll be able to get in.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t worry as much about B-school admission. How people do in high school is only a partial indicator of how well they can do in college. Admission to the B-school is somewhat competitive, but it’s not nearly as bad as some make it out to be. The average GPA of an admit is a 3.5 and they accept about 50-60% of all applicants. Not bad at all. It’s also not “two years of college.” You apply sophomore fall and get the results that same semester. You would then start as early as your sophomore spring or junior fall.</p>
<p>Seriously? UNC is a way better school than State. At my school there is a total of 520 graduating this year, and only 29 got into Chapel Hill. While a third of my class is going to State. Also, Chapel Hill is ranked 5th in the nation for top public school, while State is ranked 52. This alone should tell you which school has better academics.</p>
<p>Something you should consider as well is that 12% of NC state students transfer out, while only 2% transfer out of UNC. And honestly, UNC campus is way nicer than State. I didn’t even apply to State because I thought the campus was really ugly. </p>
<p>Only reason people consider State over UNC is because of engineering. UNC is not an engineering school, unless you’re thinking of doing biomedical engineering. In that case UNC is a good choice because UNC and State are partnered
[UNC/NCSU</a> Joint Department of Biomedical Engineering - Home](<a href=“NCSU Office of Assessment highlights what BME has done to become stronger among Graduate students - Joint BME”>http://www.bme.ncsu.edu/)</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Saying that UNC is a way better school to me is practically juvenile, it seems to me like 52 in the nation is pretty good no matter how you look at it. I want to go were i’ll be happy, because I don’t care if i got into Harvard, if I don’t enjoy where i’m at there is no way i’ll learn as well as at a “lesser ranked” place I enjoy. I’m not trying to take shots at any one, but thats just how I see it. Plus I liked NC States campus…
I’m practically 50/50 right now, and since I plan on owning my own business prestige for job applications is not that big of a deal</p>
<p>Thanks Johnm thats a lot of help actually, I keep having this nagging feeling like I will have more fun at NC State, and by that I mean enjoy myself compared to UNC. Idk i hate that this is affecting me but in reality it is, I have been a DUke fan all my life, and I just have this embedded hate for UNC</p>
<p>If you wanted to major in engineering NCSU with no question. UNC is by far the stronger school for both business and liberal arts majors.</p>
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<p>Sorry to say but this is childish…you haven’t attended either school (Duke/UNC) so any “belief” is based on third party or an arms length evaluation. UNC is a much tougher admit even instate as you have discovered…it’s grads are held in much higher esteem nationally than those of NCSU and as others have said, there’s no comparison between campuses or undergrad experiences. Given the chance, why would you not want to attend the higher rated school and be surrounded by a higher profile student body?</p>
<p>First of all, I wasn’t saying that the UNC B-School looks at high school for admission into the program. I was saying that if one tried hard and got in off the waitlist to UNC, then if they put in similar effort the first year of college, then admissions would probably on the line again. I was just putting that out there as something to consider.</p>
<p>And yeah, I go to NCSSM and I’m looked down at because I’m going to NCSU, which is clearly inferior to UNC. That’s basically how UNC treats NCSU in everything (cheering “not our rivals” during basketball games is so classy.)</p>
<p>Anyways, it sounds like you know what you want to do, and like you said, you want to own your own business so prestige doesn’t really matter. Sounds like you want to go to NCSU, so I think you should go there. If you were looking for reassurance that you’re not the only one making this choice of NCSU over UNC, you’re not.</p>
<p>Also, I love Duke!!! I run through the campus everyday, and it is just ridiculously awesome looking. I wish my SAT and grades were higher and it wasn’t so expensive, because I totally would have applied and went, haha.</p>
<p>“there’s no comparison between campuses or undergrad experiences”</p>
<p>This is exactly what I was talking about. UNC students/parents always make these grandiose statements about how amazing the UNC campus is. How much better they are. Do you really want to go to school with people like this?</p>
<p>At the same time, eadad did make a valid point about a higher profile student body. I went on craigslist to find a physics textbook for PY205, which I’m taking this summer. When I got there, the guy was in a raised Dodge Ram. He asked me, “Is this the first time you’re taking this class?” So yeah…you’re gonna have to deal with lower profile students from time to time, but I don’t really think that should make or break a decision. Just because someone is smarter doesn’t mean they’re a better person.</p>
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<p>That’s not true at all. If you want parking as a freshman, stay at Granville Towers. If you end up in a regular dorm, there are parking lots a couple of blocks from campus that you can book for a relatively low price. As far as crime goes, Chapel Hill is a much safer city than Raleigh.</p>
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<p>Yeah, State fans are so classy that they pee in the bleachers in their football stadium (no, not making this up, true story) and also made headlines recently for threatening to lynch one of our black basketball players.</p>
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<p>Yeah, going to school with people who love their campus and are proud of their school is really a bummer. You’d be much happier going to school somewhere where everyone has a built-in inferiority complex.</p>
<p>WOOOOWW ok guys this is not a ****ing contest. 1. I agree I have heard a ton of people that go/went to UNC blowing their own horn or saying just how much better they are because of it. But, there are also 20,000 people going to the school so it would make since i would run into 50 or so cocky ones.
I really do like state, and I feel like I would be comfortable there, but I really like Carolina also.<br>
And yes, the embedded hate is childish thanks for quoting the bit AFTER I said that I hate that it’s having any affect on me, I wish it didn’t but it did, its honestly hard to want to go to carolina being a duke fan.
I really dont care if the people around me are a HIGHER PROFILE. If I go to UNC and . hate it, I will not learn anything. The same goes to state.
any more info on parking at UNC?</p>
<p>I think the quality and selectivity of UNC is an important factor, but maybe consider it this way: If you go to UNC and decide you hate it, you could probably easily transfer to NC state and go there. If you decide on NC State and hate it, you have an up hill battle transferring to UNC because UNC no longer considers in-state advantage and you’d be competing with a wide range of talented individuals for your spot.</p>
<p>@joe only reason I was telling you about ranking and prestige was because you clearly ASKED if UNC had better academics. Clearly a school that is ranked 5th will have better academics than a school ranked 52. If you got waitlisted at UNC, and got accepted into State, the one that waitlisted you expects higher standards. And dude, no, 52 is not that great… I actually care because I plan on going to grad school, but you say you are planning on opening your own business which is great that you have your life planned out. But what if that does not work out? Undergrads change their majors on average 3 or 4 times. Just something to think about. </p>
<p>also, johnm1292, who is going to state said:</p>
<p>“I’m going to NCSU, which is clearly inferior to UNC.” </p>
<p>In reality, State is not that bad of a school. Its a great school. I’m just saying UNC is a much better school (which it is) because of school pride 
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<p>@john mhm UNC students and parents say UNC is so much better, because it is. stats don’t lie. State’s 12% transfer out is not that big, but compared to UNC’s 2% rate transfer out it is a big difference. clearly students are happier at UNC.</p>
<p>I love how when UNC is compared to MIT or Princeton, people will say “prestige doesn’t matter, school is what you make it”.</p>
<p>But when UNC is compared to NCSU or UNC-G, people will say “prestige and academics are very important, go to the best school you can”.</p>
<p>That’s because UNC, NCSU and UNC-G cost pretty much exactly the same, whereas MIT is much more expensive than UNC so other factors come into play.</p>
<p>Ok guys, I’m going to both school tomorrow to walk around the campuses and kind of get a vibe from each school.
I really think that both schools have great business programs. NC State just got a 37 million dollar grant given to their school of management, so im sure that will be put to use
I have actually spoken recently to someone who graduated from there, and is now in new york working for a trading company
With that said, UNC has an amazing business program so it seems, if it is true that they have a shorter length or “path” to a major, and are core centered that is both good and bad to me. Perhaps it will allow me to explore more subjects more, and study more subjects, seeing that i want to study business, and am interested in sociology and spanish as well.
leaning towards UNC but only 60/40</p>
<p>My sister retired as one of the top executives at GSK with a undergraduate business degree from UNC. She never got an advanced degree.</p>
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<p>I actually think ArtemisDea makes a good point here.</p>
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<p>I’ll make you a deal, you get Debbie Yow to field a competitive basketball team and we’ll stop the cheer. Capeesh? :-p</p>