<p>I applied to UChicago this year for freshman entrance and was waitlisted with a 34 and similar stats as yours. My point is that to get in with a 27 ACT, your essay has to stand out but unfortunately it didn’t because there were quite a few people who wrote “x is found at UChicago.” I think I’ve seen several just over at the CC UChicago forum.</p>
<p>Yeh but that was one of the 5 optional essays. Wouldn’t there be a lot of all the essay types? Idk I felt that proving the existence and whereabouts of a metaphysical entity that would further propel my learning would pertain to their liking. I spoke to an admissions counselor today, and he explained how some people tried using math, but failed because their explanations didn’t flow or make sense. Others made it completely abstract. Here is my friend’s application (he got accepted):</p>
<p>rank 1
33 ACT
AV Club
National Honor Society
Mathletes</p>
<p>He did “Find X” and explained how x would be the student trying to learn more. He also didn’t go to the interview.</p>
<p>I didn’t even start thinking about writing my essay on Find X so I don’t know how you could have improved your essay. But you sure could submit three more essays (four if you count the optional one) and your Find X must have been stellar to be the deal breaker. I also have a superstar friend who was accepted with a 2340 SAT or something (no interview) and submitted his… wait for it… Princeton essay to Chicago. If you were wondering what the essay topic was, I can tell you it was hella more generic than Find X or any other Chicago topics: it was “Tell us about someone who has influenced you.” You see how he had a 2340 on the SAT? That was probably his strength, not the essay. I can’t say the same of your friend though because 33 isn’t a high score at Chicago. He probably had other brilliant parts to his application. The admissions process is holistic whether you like it or not, meaning you can’t just rely on a good essay to get you in. I recommend you check out the “Post your essay” thread on the UChicago forum.</p>
<p>Thanks a bunch! According to my friend, that was his entire application. But I will definitely get more feedback on the essay on that forum you recommended. Thanks :)</p>
<p>Would someone be able to look over my Find X essay? I tried making a new thread but no one responded :l</p>
<p>U Chicago pays a lot of attention to essays. I advise you not to use the one that you outlined. It does not make any sense mathematically. While i is not a real number, it follows the normal rules for constants when you do calculus with it.</p>
<p>Right, but I actually explain the entire proof in my essay. A second derivative of X = 0, so I explained that quite well. Could someone who got in discuss their stats and essay with me? I would really appreciate it</p>
<p>As I recommended earlier, the post your essay thread is a very good place to start. People would usually say whether they got in in their post, and you can check their stats by checking out their post history. However those are first year applicants. And I hope you are not recycling find X because it’s not one of the given topics this year.</p>
<p>No no, I’m not recycling. I’m a transfer student, so I wanted the opinion of the transfer students who got accepted. And as I’ve said earlier, I’m fighting the admission staff, so getting input from those that got in can help my case</p>
<p>“Hello, I am a prospective transfer student fighting the admissions staff at UChicago. I’ve gotten rejected twice (once in high school, once in college).”</p>
<p>may I be blunt? You have already been rejected TWICE by Chicago. The chances that they will ONCE AGAIN look at your application are next to zero.Arguing with them will get you NOWHERE. Its time to move on.
I say this from experience. DS re applied, as a transfer student, to colleges where he WAS ACCEPTED as a freshman. He was turned down in every case, except at Chicago, which let him in again. There are far, far fewer openings for transfer students than for freshman.</p>
<p>Actually, I sense something strange in the entire process, and I’m trying to crack it. Right now, I have an extremely strong case against them. I would really appreciate input on my application rather than negative criticism (which I’ve heard from them far too much already). That way, I can gauge where I stand. Not only that, anybody who has met me feel I should have been accepted (including UChicago students and profs). There’s just something missing here and I’m trying to find out what it is…</p>
<p>“I have an extremely strong case against them.”
honey, they are a private college that has thousands and thousands more applicants than openings! AND they are not on trial! They can accept who they want to accept. You may have been qualified, but they arent obligated to accept all students “who should have been” accepted! maybe they had need of a economics major. or a future composer. or a rugby player. or maybe they had too many women and needed more men. Or too many students from your state? who knows??? College acceptances at private colleges are a black box that no one one on the outside has ever successfully peered into or opened. You are wasting your time , and getting bad advise from others as well.
You are NOT dealing from a position of strength here. They have something you want,nit the other way around, and they are under no obligation to offer it to you.</p>
<p>Yes, but they can’t accept people that has less qualifications, a less “fit,” or offer less contributions to the school over me, because that means I’ve been rejected based off something uncontrollable, like race. If that were the case, Regents of the University of California v. Bakke has already ruled that illegal. Someone from my school got in. He was rank 1 (I was rank 2), He did 3 activities (I did 4, along with 3 sports and volunteer). His Find X essay was about students wanting to learn more. Mine proved the existence and whereabouts of a metaphysical entity using calculus. Oh, and he didn’t go to the interview. Something’s definitely missing here. </p>
<p>Not only that, the head of transfer admissions told me that the only way they can reconsider my application is if something was missing from it. I recently found out interviews were offered for transfers, even though they told me otherwise. Hence, that is a case right there. Not only that, in terms of “fit,” I had a recommendation from a professor there who said I belonged there. In terms of what I can offer, I’m writing a book and want to start a political organization there that can influence city and state politics. In terms of needing a major, I’m a double major in biology and political science. </p>
<p>So let’s go over this again. Colleges need qualifications, the right kinds of students (the fit), and students willing to contribute to the university. Many who got accepted do not show the fit (they applied simply for the title), nor do they state what they want to do. Again, something’s missing. I have a case.</p>
<p>No, you don’t. You should move on.</p>
<p>“Yes, but they can’t accept people that has less qualifications”</p>
<p>LOL!!! OH. YES. THEY. CAN. </p>
<p>there is NOTHING written ANYWHERE that PRIVATE colleges HAVE to accept ANY student. That is the black box aspect nature of Holistic admissions. Unless you are a DA, and you parents have donated millions of $$$$$$$$$$$ to a college, you’ll never find out WHY you weren’t accepted. Because there probably wasn’'t anything WRONG with your application- they just didnt have room for everyone who has the “qualification” to be accepted. Choices were made , and you’ll never find out the reasons for them. And once you have been rejected, the chances of an acceptance a year later are nil…
get over it and move on kid…the more of their time you waste the less time you have to focus on other colleges where you would do great.</p>
<p>If you are talking about that friend you mentioned previously, he had a 33 ACT and you had a 27. Feel free to apply again if you want it that bad. Decisions do seem unpredictable, you never know.</p>
<p>Actually in terms of “not having enough room,” that means other people had something over me that gave them that space. They claim they didn’t choose randomly. If they chose people who were less qualified, showed less fit, and don’t have as much to offer, that’s a case. Also, I’m still on summer break. This isn’t affecting me negatively at all, nor will I let it. I see no problem in trying. Originally I simply asked for improvements to my application. As admission counselors, I thought it was a reasonable thing to ask for. They refused to help me. So now I’m just taking it a step further. </p>
<p>Also, I have a case if something was missing from my application. The interview was. I’m not on this forum to argue, I just wanted input from people who got in about my essay. I see no reason why this bickering has to continue. I just simply wanted input.</p>
<p>Thanks lullinatalk. I want to apply again, but no one would offer me suggestions on how to improve my application or evaluate my essay</p>
<p>CC has a “look over my essay” forum. Not sure what exactly it’s called. Ask for a chancing over at College Admissions or University of Chicago forum too.</p>
<p>Thanks a bunch!</p>