@wonderblue3 Thank you for the pasing the information along. Not great news for us OOS but after a long, strange trip, there will be some closure. Son would’ve given up a significant academic scholarship and Honors College slot on the spot if UM would’ve said yes and he couldn’t of made that any clearer. I wish you luck with your student as well and our kids will do great where they are attending. Just too bad UM held out hope for all of these qualified kids on their waitlist for so long
@wonderblue3, what about in-state students? Did yi hear anything from.your HS rep on that? Thx
Wanted to just comment as my daughter got in OOS about this time last year off the waitlist and accepted. I have another (rising high school jr) so I try and stay current w what’s going on for what school as we are soon to go thru this again. She sent in two letters expressing continued interest. One after getting deferred EA and one after being waitlisted. Both said many things but it was very very clear if accepted at anytime she will change plans and immediately enroll. I did a lot of reading anywhere I could about what they were looking for off a waitlist. I am not sure where I read this or if even true, but it said for OOS waitlisted applicants something that could trigger an offer off the waitlist was state and or national recognition (in something). That came to fruition after initial her application. Ironically my daughter had just won two awards. One at the state level and one at the regional level. She also won a National Championship for one of the sports she plays (she’s not a recruited athlete). Hopefully this is some other info to add to the admissions/waitlist puzzle. Good luck everyone with whatever winds up working out for you.
As rough as this process has been (and although I would be one of those who would turn on a dime to accept) I think it just goes to show that Michigan is a school that has a reputation that makes it easy for them forget about simple courtesy towards their prospective students. My mother worked at UMich, as well as studied there, and she has emphasized how appalled she has been at the way they’ve handled this entire process.
It gives me some comfort that I’m attending a school that I truly do love, but this entire thing has (to be frank) sucked. I hope everyone who’s also gone through this gets some closure and ends up in a better spot. I was considering transferring but at this point I don’t think Michigan is worth another year of anxiety.
This info will be interesting in terms of the statistical output from this year’s class. For the Class of 2022, the ratio was 52% in-state and 48% OOS/international (45% OOS/3% international). When the stats are released for the Class of 2023, I’ll be interested to know where they capped the OOS % this year, because it has been trending down the last 3 years (47%/46%/45%).
Me too. While I’m sure many others have ramped it up earlier, my rising HS junior is just starting to ramp up the college process in earnest this summer. Oy.
Not that it’s any comfort whatsoever, UCLA, another large prestigious public university just closed their waitlist on or about 6/15. And we did see someone here on CC last year get accepted to UMich around the July 4th holiday, though I can’t recall if he/she was instate or OOS.
Until that final email comes, I’d try to keep the faith.
@wonderblue3 and @sushiritto - that is our grievance - watching kids with lower scores, grades and EC’s get in. We tell our kids that academics matter, that test scores and all these EC things will get you in, and then the school does a stealth adversity score and “builds a class” based on secret criteria. How do I explain to my son that he is penalized for living in a nice neighborhood, being white and male? it might help if they told everyone what the REAL criteria are for gaining admittance. But everyone tells you it is all these other things. These kids work their tails off for four years and find out that they are being penalized for things that even the university won’t tell you matter. It is not simply the type of unfairness one encounters in life. This is a system engineered to be unjust…or rather to conform to someone’s abstract concept of social justice. it is sickening.
@Colbuscus I agree with you, but it’s not just UMich.
I live in the Silicon Valley area with many of our local high-performing HS students having the same issue. For example, the UC’s, especially Cal and UCLA since those are the two most well-known elite UC’s, are seeking out first-gen college students (Pell grants included) with lower scores and admitting them over wealthy Caucasian and Asian students with higher test scores. I hear the same thing here locally. And the USNWR rankings have modified their ranking formula(s) to reward it.
Maybe it’s the same with UVa and UNC, but I don’t follow them here. And as I noted above, UMich OOS admissions have been slowly trending down. Over the past 3 years, UMich has enrolled roughly 200 (about 67 per class or 1% per year) less OOS students than before.
It is weird that OOS wait list is closing, The last spots will be given to in-state, yet in-state student hears that large Metro Detroit office for admissions is also shutting their waitlist down.
Maybe emphasizing identity factors is the right thing to do, I don’t know. But instead of being forthright about it, schools use euphemisms - cliches you hear in truly every single college tour, like “need blind” and “holistic review” - which means, we want you to apply even if you think you don’t have the academic stats or tuition wherewithal. And the flip side is, if you do have the academic stats and tuition wherewithal, you may very well be missing something else we seek. They’re sending messages/mail to encourage the most apps possible and posting acceptance rates and average stats that are highly misleading because they vary based on factors you often can’t control - diversity, adversity, athletic gifts, majors, specific interests and things not found in the Common Data Set or anywhere. If you try and ask someone in Michigan admissions any of that, or even just where the waitlist stands, and you will get a very scripted answer (I’ve been cut and pasted the same answer about waitlist status 3-4 times now). Michigan is as inconsiderate as I have encountered in this regard, to me and likely to thousands upon thousands of worthy students and people who seem to exist only to help them meet their institutional goals. Finally, I don’t think we’re truly talking about the wealthy bearing the brunt - it’s the people who have enough means that they can’t claim adversity, but not so much that they can pave any number of ways in. I think they used to call that middle class…
I understand everyone’s frustration regarding this process, as we were in the same boat just a few weeks ago - waiting is the worst. In regards to people getting off the waitlist just because their adversity score is high - the 3 people our family knows that got accepted on the 8th, they would not have a high adversity score. All were in-state, ACT over 30 and strong extra curricular‘s. As much as we’d like to figure out how they pick people, it’s never a clear cut answer. As hard as it is, you just have to have faith that you’ll end up where you’re meant to be! Best of luck to everyone.
@tsk1995 I can only tell you what I was told. I have no idea what the plan is for in-state students. I wish I could give you some hope because I know how you’re feeling and read these blogs for any glimmer. Best of luck.
Thanks @wonderblue3
I wouldn’t listen to the rumor mill. Wait until that email comes!
I just don’t see how this is different than any other top public and private university.
During the last year’s admissions season, we received zero solicitations from UMich. And for my Class of 2025 student, we haven’t received any solicitations from UMich either, but we’re getting them from a boatload of other universities.
So I just called University of Michigan undergraduate Admissions and I talked to someone named Carrie and she told me that the waitlist is still open until the end of June she doesn’t know what that exactly means she knows that it’s coming really close but they are still taking people from out-of-state and in-state according to what she was told today so that is the information directly from the University of Michigan undergraduate admissions
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@knowsstuff thank you for this information. I would like to add that my post came directly from our U of M, AO. If the Admissions people are accurate, I guess they are not informing the AO’s. I will remain hopeful.
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