Got deferred. I have a question: My counselor told me that mid year-report will be sent to common app, and it is kind of standard procedure. Is UM going to update my report from the common app, or should I request the mid-year report to be sent to UM directly? Thanks.
@AS2YPZ
Strong recent grades that are available before mid-February 2018 may improve your status in the deferred pool of applicants. Therefore, please ask your high school counselor to forward them when they become available. Beyond that, we are confident that the information you have given us is more than sufficient for a final decision.
Does that mean I have to
@benl54321 Go into the application portal. If it lists mid-year reports under necessary materials, then you need to send it otherwise it is up to your discretion, but highly recommended to send.
No one said deferral did not happen.Whoever that were not admitted, they are deferred. There is nothing unusual. For a school with mid 50 ACT of 31-34 or higher and a low admission rate, everyone has a high chance of deferral. However, they were not deferred simply because of higher stat. There are admissions of high stat applicants too. You see more admissions with lower stat is mainly due to the larger number of applicants with lower score than with 35/36.
Does anyone know if deferred students are now admitted on a rolling basis or is there one set date when decision announcements are released?
Looking through this thread, it is apparent that nothing in life is guaranteed. Just because you got a 36 on the ACT or have a perfect 4.0 GPA, you’re not guaranteed admission anywhere. First off, as someone else pointed out, there are implicit biases in standardized tests, and your grades at one school may not compare favorably with someone else’s grades at a tougher school. Not necessarily your fault, but also doesn’t entitle you to admission everywhere. Life sometimes isn’t fair - I’m sure there’s a fair amount of randomness in who gets accepted or who doesn’t. But keep in mind, in a competitive environment, for everyone with a perfect GPA or test, there are probably ten other people like you, if not more. And given some of the entitled attitudes I’ve seen on this forum, it wouldn’t surprise me if some of that arrogance came through in the ancillary materials you provided - be it recommendations or essays. Also, keep in mind that deferral is not equal to denial. If you ultimately get accepted, it won’t make a difference that you didn’t get in early in the EA process.
Has anyone else not gotten their official letter of admission in the mail yet? Its been more than a week and I find that really weird…
@Jagomezpr My daughter received her packet in the mail today, so watch your mail box.
Admissions says it could be any time over the next week or so.
All RD are rolling, regardless if it was deferred from EA or not. Nevertheless, rolling at UMich just means it has no fixed date. It does not mean a short turn over time.
@Blizzard1 , I heard the same thing from my friends in VA, MD, NJ and NC where their kids go to school. In all those schools, virtually every one with high stats got deferred.
@Dan they’re basically inviting you to send your mid year grades, and I would do so unless the grades are significantly worse than your norm.
No one is implying that because a student scored a 35 or 36 on their ACT or have a 4.0 that they are guaranteed anything. What a few of us are suggesting is that these students may have been deferred because Michigan is concerned about yield. The students I spoke of attend a top rated, rigorous HS with varied extracurriculars. They are athletes, musicians, dancers etc. Some hold part time jobs and are active in their community. The concern is that not one was offered admission when our school usually sends 7 -15 students each year - graduating class of 1100 students. That being said, a deferral can turn into an acceptance and that would be great but it does lead to speculation regarding yield. And again I will state that most of these kids (if not all) would not require FA and would be full pay OOS. Good luck to all!
Totally. Could be about yield. Or it could be that you have a small sample size and that for every 1 with perfect scores who got in there are three who didn’t YET. I would venture a guess that in a pool of 40,000, with about 6,000 admitted and most of the rest deferred that there’s a virtual match for everyone who got in just based upon stats (grades, ACT/SAT) on both sides of the ledger. It’s not merely a numbers game - if it were, there would be no application process and you would just submit scores. I take issue with the idea that everyone who has a 4.0 and a 36 should get in over someone who has a 3.85 and a 33, which is the logical conclusion of the premise that seems to be proposed here. I personally know five students who were virtually identical in every way shape and form on statistics (on the excellent side, by the way - perfect GPAs) two of whom got admitted and three who got deferred. I suspect there’s something in their applications that differentiates them.
I would say two things in conclusion. First, if someone got deferred, they weren’t denied and may yet get in. And second, as others have said in this thread, people get in or don’t for a variety of reasons. It may, in fact, as you suggest, be about yield. It could be that the applications aren’t as strong as people think they are just because of their numbers. I think it’s more fruitful for all if, instead of carping about why he or she didn’t get in and speculating it’s about yield (which, psychologically, pushes the blame onto the University, rather than something in their application or profile), to reflect and think about what they can do now to improve their ultimate chances of admission. I just think “oh, it’s about yield, what else could it be, I’m from out of state and I can pay full freight so it has to be about yield” is counterproductive.
OOS from rigorous tech school, with high scores and GPA and varsity athlete with strong recs, in for engineering. Others from same school deferred. Who knows why, but they did not defer DC because of strong OOS scores.
Where do I find where they ask for required materials? @confused6789
Well said, Big Daddy72. There’s no question that OOS admissions at U of M were highly competitive this year, perhaps more so than the last few years, but I agree that many people are projecting a “yield” component without any real evidence. I think the more logical explanation is that with a staggering number of applicants, they could only admit about 1 in 5 EA candidates (maybe lower for OOS). Even if you take out the lowest scores, and put them in the rejection category, Michigan has no choice but to defer a significant percentage of the most qualified students. I would even venture a guess that as a public institution, the risk of over-admitting is more important to the admissions office than yield.
BigDaddy72 I actually agree with most of what you are saying and I’m happy for those students admitted EA. As a parent, I hope you can understand the frustration in watching your child work hard and get deferred from their dream school. No blame placed on UMich, just difficult to see your child’s disappointment. I wish all students well and never meant to start an argument over scores and GPA.
With the yield rate going higher every year and a very low wait list admission number, there is no evidence to support the yield protection speculation. Indeed, the yield rate increase had led to over enrollment in recent years. The worse over enrollment was 4 years ago that the school need to provide luxury apartment for 300+ return students in order to have enough dorm rooms for freshmen.
@Blizzard1 I empathize with your situation. I truly do. I have a kid right now that got deferred from his dream school, and I get it sucks. But at U of M more than a lot of places it doesn’t mean it’s over. It means it’s time to dig deep and how to figure out how to make this dream a reality. I’ve watched mine do that at another school rather than focusing on the negative. He allowed himself a moment of “well, I’m more qualified than X who got in” and then tried to figure out what he could do to make his dream school a reality and took steps to make it happen.
And you know what, he still may not make it. And that’s fine. He’ll be happy wherever he ends up and he’ll do great. I am super proud of the attitude he’s taken and how he’s handled himself and his ability to work hard to try and get what he wants.
I’ll end with another anecdote about a buddy of mine who’s daughter got rejected by every ‘name’ school she applied to. She (and he) was crushed. Fast forward, two years later, she’s at a school in a city she loves, doing well, having the time of her life, and has really grown up as a person and couldn’t imagine having gone anywhere else. As the Boss sings, “Show a little faith, it’s magic in the night.” These colleges in question are not the destination, but a way station on the journey. An important way station to be sure, and hopefully all the kids will have a great time and excel, whether it’s at school X or school Y.