@aaa16797… my D got accepted into COE, however she has not yet received the mail in USPS yet. I have seen in prior posts some of them receiving the package first week of January
Thanks for the information! @sams
@lex608 In past years, financial aid awards were released in March.
@as2018 The vast majority of candidates are deferred. Upwards of 80%.
@bsms2018 I appreciate that you haven’t studied statistics, but the problem with your analysis is that it is based on CC. That is not a representative sample. As a result, what you state is speculation and nothing more. As for Michigan not admitting students who are likely to go elsewhere (i.e., the Ivies), the evidence suggests otherwise with East Coast boarding schools experiencing very high admission rates this season. As many, if not most, of their students get admitted to other 1st Tier universities, it seems Michigan isn’t too worried about being treated as a safety.
As for your comment that “their expectation is that those kids will not bother to express interest or send mid year grades and they can weed them out”, that is not THEIR expectation. It is conjecture, and baseless conjecture at that.
@billcsho Couldn’t agree more. I personally think that the reason the Tufts Syndrome myth persists is that it is easier to accept a deferral if you can blame it on something.
@bsms2018 You are young and perhaps too young to know, but the “holistic stupidity” to which you refer has been around for decades, at least at the country’s most competitive universities (including UM). Moreover, given all the research on the inherent problems with standardized testing–and the SAT was just thoroughly revamped in response to previous criticism–I’d be even more wary of relying on such supposedly “objective” criteria. I’ve worked with students who, following tutoring, saw their scores increase by over 100 points, which puts paid to the argument that such tests cannot be “taught for”.
It would be nice if there were a perfect way to decide who is admitted, but holistic admissions is the best approach devised so far, at least for universities with literally tens of thousands of superbly qualified candidates. And there is no denying that UM does manage to select an incredibly diverse and talented group of students from what is now a global applicant pool.
It is interesting that the “tufts syndrome” speculation persists around UM admissions more than any other university on CC in its “top universities” list.
@billcsho and @exlibris97 What are the chances for deferred applicants in the regular pool? Based on past years data do most of the high stats applicants get rejected?
@bsms2018 they accepted around 15% for EA so a ton of people were deferred, including many of the high stat people on this. Keep in mind that everyone has high stats for engineering and LSA is extremely unpredictable. Just because you see people with lower stars get in does not mean Tufts syndrome, there are many factors that you do not know (legacy, URM, in-state, ect)
The talk of our hs has been the number of kids deferred at Michigan. Thats not speculation and its very unusual for this school. Just wanted to weigh in because some here appear to be saying it didnt happen.
Not sure I agree with the Tufts Syndrome…at least generally. My son was accepted OOS EA by Michigan and has very high stats (engineering) and is a candidate for financial aid. Probably a prime candidate for deferral if Tufts is true.
@turtle17 It is important to remember that most of the people speculating about the existence of a “Tufts Syndrome” on CC are high school seniors and applicants themselves. No doubt well intentioned, they are seeking to understand why some people weren’t accepted and so speculate. As the Moderator and others have noted, no one from UM admissions has commented and many students with high stats have been admitted EA.
@curiouspup I have no doubt an unusual number of deferrals has caused consternation. The same thing happened a couple years ago at Andover and Exeter when Brown, Columbia and Chicago suddenly deferred scores of students who would have previously been admitted. Then the argument was that these schools were deferring students who they felt were trying for Harvard and Stanford and using them as safeties. Same old story.
@exlibris97 I’m not commenting on why. I believe the moderator shut down speculation. Just saying this is a first. We will see what the final #s look like.
My comment wasn’t about who is speculating or whether there is a basis for it. It is that the quantity of speculation about yield protection on the UM threads at CC is much more than any other university in the top university list.
I agree we cannot speculate or get into the heads of the Admission Department but I will make this comment, the school that my student attends has 15 perfect ACT scores, 20 NMSF - well rounded kids with strong academics and extra curricular activities. Most are full pay kids ( OOS) and they all got deferred!
I have been told the “perfect” ACT score can be a detriment as crazy as it sounds.
In regards to the ACT scores, is it because UMich thinks they are applying there as a safety school? Because that is just plain crazy! And yes, the ACT score has not helped these kids, deferred at many schools!
Should I send mid yr grades if I was deferred from Michigan even if those grades are not strong compared to first quarter or junior yr? Or could I just send a loci instead? My grades dropped from first quarter to second and I don’t want admissions to see that. Thanks
Look, wondering why you got deferred isn’t going to do anybody a whole lot of good. The EA acceptance rate is low enough that looking for logic to any decision (including Tufts syndrome) is pretty much pointless. Competitive admissions are basically meaningless. If you’re reeling and looking for something to explain your decision, I’m sorry, getting blindsided from a school you love sucks, but there isn’t necessarily a good reason for any of this. Though, keep in mind that getting a deferral EA means you stand a really good chance for RD admissions.
Also @benl54321 it should say on your deferral letter if they want more information of not. Send the loci no matter what but if it doesn’t ask for your grades you don’t have to send them.