Thank you Dwane, I really appreciate the comment and I can’t thank you enough for your service to our country. In response to your question, I will have 28 credits coming from Purdue and I had 13 AP credits coming in. I am assuming some will transfer over. Congratulations on your acceptance, that’s very admirable and thank you for taking the time to write out a thoughtful response. Best of luck!
@KMLtrick, https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/freshmen-applicants/ap-ib-credit#Engineering this is a site that breaks down your AP/IB credits that will/could transfer. As far as specifics for CoE, I’m a LSA student, so I don’t want to lie to you so I can’t say your chances definitively. I can say; holistically, as a “transfer” you’re in really really good standing. So with your stats, the rigor of your courses, you’re a shoe-in. As i stated, the more credits you have, the less they look at HS and test scores. Things that you should really emphasize during you’re Common app is how you came straight from high school with 37 ap credits, and I don’t want to assume, but i you’re probably bilingual, so that will also help.The only thing that will hurt your chances are your EC’s- nil to none- and this school is big on contribution, I mean really big (I started classes Wednesday and I’m part of 2 groups already ‘Transfer connections and SVA’ and plan on being involved in psychological research during the summer). So full breakdown of pro’s and con’s
Pro’s
Including your ap courses you surpass the 30 credit req
You’re OOS, so the school gets nonresidential tuition from you (depending on your bracket it’s $62,176 for lower and $65,508 for upper per year) *Granted this price incorporates housing, books, expenses and meal plans.
Your g.p.a for your class rigor is phenomenal
You’re transferring from another respected institution with solid academic standing
Con’s
You’re OOS, and the stats for acceptance is a lot lower, and even worse for CoE (Based off of other forums and stats from other people, I think the acceptance rate for OOS for CoE is 18% or maybe a little lower).
You don’t have a lot of EC’s that demonstrate being altruistic (or involved in other things besides academics), leadership or situations that set you apart from other students.
With all things considered, I think you’re an asset that UMich will welcome with open arms. Just make sure that you hit your “highlights” in a way that separates you from other academic prospects and play up your class rigor and involvement within the engineering community at NYU and I have the utmost faith you’ll be here. As I told matt, I’ve seen amazing academics get denied, and I’m seen average academic prospects get accepted. So stand out, and I wish you nothing but the best.
@mattmckenney7 if you’re at 41 respectively, then yeah, you are most definitely a transfer. Depending on whether or not your 28 credits are potential or actual changes a lot. If you’re taking courses now that will equate the 28, then there is still hope. I say this because you have a chance to show currently enrolled classes before you submit your Common app. Down side is; if you have a 3.94 now, and something happens during your spring term, it could be detrimental to your cause. If you “have” 28 from Purdue, then ignore everything I just typed. I said that because you said “will” and I just assumed that you mean you “will” have 28 come fall. If you currently have 41, then you my friend, are in excellent standing as far as stats for almost every program offered here. Rigorous academics, amazing EC’s, and a portfolio that would have Ross admissions counselors smiling like a blitzed Rastafarian.
Also, thank you, and I wish you and KML nothing but the best. GO BLUE, and I’ll def look for you guys in the fall.
Here are my stats for you all to chance me, thank you all in advance: (For LSA Fall 2018)
-Attending an in state CC
-Already completed 14 credits, currently taking 14 more
-Member of Honors on campus
-Social Science Major
-Deans List
-3.98 GPA
E.C
-Teaches clarinet
-Volunteers
-French Club (through school)
-Internship (data entry)
-Will be participating in summer research fellowship
Because I have only completed 14 credits they will most likely look at my high school transcripts for consideration. My admissions counselor said they will specifically examine my junior and senior year, both of which average a 3.8/4
They also told me ACT would not be considered, as it is a college readiness exam, and I have already taken college courses. I don’t know if it matters, but I also took a gap year between high school and college to travel and earn money for school.
Thank you!!
@Fafafafafa, don’t want to be a buzzkill, but you don’t meet the req’s for transfer (https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/transfer-students). If you want to apply come fall '18, you’ll have to apply as a freshman. That or do your fall '18 semester at your current school and apply for winter '19. If you do the latter, the cutoff is October 1st and the Common App opens August 1st and 99% of their decisions will be out by the middle of November (got mine on Nov. 10th). I applied RD, so if you do EA, then I can’t help ya with that. Wish you the best and keep up your stats, and as an in-state LSA student, you have a pretty good chance at acceptance.
Last little tidbit, they reserve a certain number of slots for instate transfer students. If you want specifics I can hit up my peer mentor and get back to you. Best of luck and hope this helped.
Hi everyone,
I am currently a freshman at a CA CC and I am planning to apply for Fall 2018 transfer to University of Michigan.
I currently have 25 credits and will be taking another 14 this upcoming semester and also have 12 AP credits that will transfer.
My question is, does the 30+ credit requirement have to be met before my application is submitted or can it be fulfilled by my spring semester credits? Also, do my AP credits count towards the 30+ credit requirement?
Thanks!
@dwane1 Thank you so much for the response. I definitely would love some specifics, that would be fantastic. I emailed my admissions counselor to see what they think. Unfortunately I have already started my CommonApp as a transfer and have most of my essays already completed. Do you think it would hurt me at all to apply now and see what happens, and then again for the winter '19 if I don’t get in? Thanks for your feedback once again, I really appreciate it.
Hi all,
An UPDATE:
I emailed the University of Michigan representative that I have been working with the past few months and he assured me that the 30+ credit statement on the transfer admissions page is NOT a rule, but is a GUIDELINE. Also, both first and second semester units count towards the 30+ credits and AP scores add into that total as well! So that means in total (counting my spring semester units) I have 51 credits applying as a freshman!
Just thought I would let everyone know that so no one freaks out too much over the 30+ credit statement on the website.
Good luck with apps everyone! Hope to see you all in the Fall!
@blondebonske17, IB= credits, AP doesn’t always grant credits. Check the link I provided for KML, and you’ll see examinations and acceptable courses. In order to be a transfer THIRTY credits must be obtained. The reason is, you wont be a transfer with freshmen credits, period! Break it down; 0-29 freshman, 30- 59 sophomore, 60-89 junior and 90-120 senior. Now granted there is leniency, hence being a junior transfer with a minimum of 55 credits ( reason is u can take the cap, 18 credits for 2 semester and be at 90 credits 'or take 1 semester before the year ends and be a senior midyear). Now if you’re a literal person, you could take 30 credits in a semester if you wanted to, but after 18 the price of “per credit hours” goes up a boat load- not to mention you’ll have no life. I don’t know your story, but come here with 51 credits and push for 300 series courses and see what happens. I came from I.U as a transfer with 47 credits -33 transferred- and because of the drastic academic difference, I am doing nothing but hw, sleeping and classes at 16 credit hours. So unless you’re a savant or nonhuman, I see a very, very rough road for you. On a good note, I do hope you get accepted and check this forum’s for links, and you’ll see for yourself.
@Fafafafafa, here is a link https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/transfer-students. Want personal experiences? Check the 2018 winter forum and see how many people with less than the minimum requirements got accepted. I am not trying to scare you, I am trying to give you information that will get you here. Everything I did, I did because I had good rapport with my admissions counselor and with his guidance and by God’s grace, I got accepted. To answer your question about applying, it is really hard to say. For one, applying the wrong way won’t do you any favors. When you apply, if you don’t meet requirements, then the people reviewing are most likely not going to read your app. Think of it this way. Say you have to hire someone to program your computer. You place your ad on Indeed, or some other social media. You list the req’s for the job, and what you expect. Now imagine people show up, and they don’t meet any of your req’s but they’re great people. There’s a pretty good chance you wont hire them, so why expect anything differently from a major university. Now granted there are Cinderella stories- exceptional people, with exceptional stories- that get in. So I wont say you cant get in with less than 30 credits, I’m just saying you wont get in as a transfer. Lastly, you have nothing to lose (maybe the $75) by applying at all. You miss 100% of the shots you never take, so aim high my friend. But if I were in your shoes I would either apply as a freshman or, take another semester a your CC and kick ass. I hope this helped, and if it’s any consolation, never get discouraged by anything people say on this site. I applied at the end of Sep last year, and I did a chance me, and almost everyone said I had 0 chances as an OOS transfer (4.0 and 47 credits between a CC and University) with my courses. Yet here I am, trying to help people from an apt in NW 2. I wish you nothing but the best, and if this is where you want to be, then get here. Best of luck and sorry for the late response.
hello all, I applied to Umich last year in my senior year of high school and am now applying again this year to transfer in the fall. The same questions as last year are asked again this year, so do i have to write completely new essays or submit the same ones as last year or maybe just change up what i had already??
@dwane1 , thank you for your response. I don’t exactly understand why you said I would have a rough road ahead of me if I were to go to UM. I definitely would not take 30 units in a single semester, nor would I be taking upper division courses for my major if I were to transfer this year since I still have major pre-reqs. that I need to complete (ie. O-Chem, Calculus, and some Psych courses). Also, I have double checked my AP units with the website and with a U of M admissions representative who has my transcripts and they do all provide credits, so that is not a problem. Also, I believe that all my course credits transfer (with the exception of 1 course) since my CC has a honors program transfer agreement with UM. Overall, I am just wondering why you thought it would be difficult for me at UM? I totally trust your knowledge when it comes to being a student at the university, but truly am just curious as to why you said I have a “rough road” ahead of me. I’m a very strong student who purely ended up at a CC because of financial reasons (I graduated high school with a 4.3 GPA, a 32 on the ACT (with a perfect writing score) and have a Seal of Biliteracy, along with many other things) and am fairly confident in my ability to handle heavy coursework. By no means am I questioning your authority on this issue, but I am just curious as to why you thought it would be a rough road for me.
@blondebonske17, to clarify, I said rough because you stated you’d come in with 51 credits. Those credits you use to get here will have an effect on which courses you will take. Say you get here and they accepted all your chem and math courses and you have to start off at ochem. You take courses and during drop/add time-frame you realize that what you did at your other school or high school doesn’t equate. Since you’re courses place you at an intermediate level, you put yourself in a very bad spot because you are no longer eligible for intro or lower level courses. I am not saying that you are not an accomplished and fastidious student, I responded to your statements pertaining to credits and how they were obtained. Regardless of the means you use to get here, I am just trying to point out that if your credits are accepted, and if they are applicable to your degree, there is no going back and saying “I was just kidding.” I have a friend who transferred as a math major, and the courses he took at his other school placed him in higher tier courses. What he didn’t account for was the academic differences, and now he can’t get into lower tier courses because of his previous courses and hes at the cap for transfer credits. So when I said rough road, I meant that coming here with 51 credits may place you in a position you are not ready for. Conversely, you may be a very high caliber student who adapts and possess a wealth of knowledge that doesn’t hinder you in the slightest. I don’t know you or your story, so take it as you will. My statement wasn’t a personal affront, and I do hope you get here. I just really hope that you truly know what is coming. Because I came from a decent university, and I was nowhere near prepared for the drastic academic difference between I.U and U-M.
Here is a response to everything you stated.
30, wasn’t a literal statement, it was a statement to prove you can take as many courses as you wanted.
As per your major, depending on what transfers and what you petition and have credited, it will impact your major. I.e you took a.p bio and petition bio and it’s accepted so now instead of into mol/cell bio you’re taking mol or cell bio.
All your credits transferred but 1, so that puts you at 50 credits. That means that you are a sophomore and 1 tri away from junior, and depending on your degree path, there are very few 100 series course you can take. Which means, most of your core courses will be 200-300 series courses.
I do hope you get here if this is where you want to be. And I am only saying things from my view point, so take it as you will. I’m not saying you can or can’t get here, I am just saying be careful of the means in which you use. Best of luck.
@dwane1 , I totally understand what you’re saying now and trust me, I’m very aware that coming in with high amounts of credits will not be an easy transition anywhere, especially at a high caliber school like U-M; however with the way UC’s set up transfers, when you’re at a CA CC you really have no other option than to complete all of your undergrad pre-reqs in your first 1-2 years before applying or else you’ll get rejected for having an incomplete IGETC 
. Sadly, I’m pretty much stuck at where my units are at for U-M (maybe give or take a few depending on how they decide to judge my English course and a few others) and whether I transfer this year or not I’m going to be doing O Chem in my Fall semester, so that’s going to be quite a wild ride either way!
Thank you for your responses, by the way! I definitely did not mean to come across as being defensive in my last post, I was honestly just confused by the “rough road” comment since no one has ever told me about the cap on credits and how they affect what courses I can take if I am to be accepted and transfer! It’s nice to get the perspective of someone at the school who has had experience with transferring credits, etc. since no one had even mentioned to me before that I could be stuck with only upper level courses if I am to transfer that many units over, so thank you!!! and GO BLUE!
I submitted my application with two letters of recommendation (high school AP Macro/Microecon teacher, Linear Algebra Professor)
College: Schoolcraft College
Intended Major: Economics
School: LSA
HS Stats:
GPA: 3.38
ACT: 23
Three AP classes (only 2 getting credit for, AP Macroeconomics and AP US Politics and Government)
EC: Ski Club, 20 hours a week working
College:
GPA: 3.639
Credits: 42 (will have 56 at the end of this semester and 60 after spring)
Honors: Phi Theta Kappa Honor Society, Dean’s List 2/3 semesters
Rigor of Classes: Tough (Calc 1, Calc 2, Calc 3, Linear Algebra)
EC: Libertarian Club, 30 hours a week working, volunteering for co-worker’s blind friend (40 hours overall)
I talked with my admissions officer back in October and he said that a 3.5 GPA (what I had at the time) would position me well in the review process. My counsler at Schoolcraft said “I would be beyond shocked if you didn’t get accepted, especially in the school of LSA with an economics intended major. I went to LSA and worked at U of M for a short while and I don’t think there’s much of a chance you’ll get denied.”
Is anyone receiving a weird error when clicking on application status on wolverine access?
It says something like that “Function getwascluster does not return a result. (180,69) MRAWASWRK.NAME.FieldFormula Name:getwas_cluster PCPC:3484 Statement:58.”
@MGoBlueBen, are you IS or OOS?
@MGoBlueBen, you’re IS. With that, I’d say you’re a high bump. If you were applying LSA as an OOS with your courses, your G.P.A would’ve hurt you; unless you were using LSA to transfer to CoE/Ross. Now Ross, or CoE, you’d def be in the 50-75 percentile, but Ross is kinda picky when it comes to student’s not applying as freshmen (I have 2 Ross students in my AMCULT-240 course). I digress, sorry. Anyways, as an IS you have a really good chance. Being IS you bring life experience, you’re academically established- the rigor of your listed courses-, and right in the sweet-spot (54-60 credits, best place to be) for the perfect trifecta. Like I’ve said before, make sure your essay is spot-on. Because no matter how good you are academically, more often than not, someone will be better. What admission counselors want, are educated “individuals”, so best of luck and I hope you get in.
@dwane1 Yes, I am in state. I’m purely trying to get into LSA. I spent a few hours on the short essays and several hours over a few days for the longer ones. Every essay that I wrote was peer reviewed, and the longer (and presumably more important) essays were peer reviewed by several peers. Thank you very much for your insight and well wishes. I’m staying postive about getting in, but I can’t wait for the review process to be over! Should I be denied, I plan to re apply for the winter after re taking calc 1 and 2 which I got 3.0’s in, and are “hurting” my GPA.
hey guys! do you know if we are required to send our highschool transcripts? im confused because on the mich website for transfers it says that we have to but on the actual common app website under my colleges → univ of michigan it says attention transfer students: secondary school report and mid year report are not required, so im not sure if i should send it or not
@swimgymnastics Yes, use parchment to retrieve and send your high school transcripts
I’m applying to LSA
I’m a freshman at Michigan State University and I’m in the honors college. I received a 4.0 fall semester in fairly difficult (some being 300 level) courses. Between fall and spring semester I will have 28 credits plus AP credit from 4 AP exams. I am in the pre-PA club, volunteered for the radio station, and am looking to join more groups this semester.
In high school my gpa was a 3.96. I was in the top 10% of my class and received a 30 on my ACT. I was in lots of clubs like NHS and other volunteer groups as well as the captain of the soccer team.
I wanted to know my chances of getting in to uofm and if I should try to get a letter of recommendation.