I guess I didn’t mean to come off as so negative. My thinking is that there a so many great colleges out there, I don’t think GT sophomore year to Michigan as such great thing. But I can see how it could be right for some.
My D is OOS and with the GT sophomore year, I can already hear the giant sucking sound on our finances. Thank god she is not even considering it. I know she will be very happy and successful at the school she has chosen, and just wished that Michigan would have been faster in giving a terminal decision instead of stringing her along for sooooo long.
“My thinking is that there a so many great colleges out there, I don’t think GT sophomore year to Michigan as such great thing.”
You are only fooling yourself adkdad. In four years those who transfer will have a Michigan diploma. No one will care if they weren’t accepted as freshmen.
^^^ I agree. GT is indeed a great deal except for certain programs, for instance, for those who want to apply to Ross. For OOS students, one may save a lot of money by going to an in state college for freshmen before transferring to UMich. At the end, not only graduate with the same degree but also a little bit cheaper.
2 final comments - 1. “a little bit cheaper.” - I guess that is relative - for an OOS, UMIch is off the charts expensive, and 2. I think I may have run in to a couple of very successful people that haven’t gone to UMich - imagine that!
Thank you for your willingness to be on our waitlist for the College of Literature, Science, and the Arts. You are a very accomplished student and, we believe, would be successful at the University of Michigan.
Unfortunately, we have now met our enrollment goals. I am sorry to have to tell you that we do not have sufficient space to be able to offer you freshman admission for Fall 2015.
But can we keep the conversation going? If you are still passionate about the University of Michigan, we would be happy to accept you as a sophomore level transfer to the University (rather than the typical junior level transfer). You would not need to fill out the application again, although we do ask that you maintain a “3.0” grade point average or higher while enrolled in transferable courses at another college during the 2015-2016 academic year (12-15 credit hours each semester).
I don’t think they post how many GTs offered or how many are actually utilized, but I think it’s far better to know you are guaranteed a spot at the college of your choice next year than to settle for a second choice college for four years. The transfer offer alleviates the need to re-apply and play the “waiting game” all over again. Get some transferable Gen Ed (aka “lecture hall”) classes out of the way at a less expensive college and $ave.
Dang, I was hoping I could transfer after the upcoming fall semester since I’ll already be at sophomore level with credits going in, but I just called and I guess we have to spend a full year somewhere else regardless and then transfer for fall 2016. It would’ve been nice to get in sooner but I could understand why they’d want us to wait a full year.
I’m still confused about the process of GT. Do I still have to take 12-15 credit hours of classes at my current University if I already have transferable credits from my AP exams? Is there a deadline to send in our transcripts?
The GT offer says that they met enrollment and don’t have space for you this year, so they are offering a space for next year. And from what I’ve seen, UMich doesn’t accept a lot of AP credits. Even if your current university considers you a sophomore, the credits may not transfer.
My S has 42 credits according to the AP Guidelines list. I’m wondering if he can transfer for the winter term since he would be a junior at that point (COE). He would have only one semester at another university but if he stays any longer than that then all the extra credits would have to be retaken at UM.
@inlikeflynn It depends on what AP course you took and which school (CoE or LSA) you are going, one may actually get more than a year amount of AP credits easily. My D only took 6 AP exams but she got 33 credits already. Nevertheless, having a year full of AP credits does not mean one may graduate a year sooner. But for sure one will need to pay upperclassmen tuition earlier.
I applied regular decision in late December, OOS. I was waitlisted in March and then offered GT as a sophomore. I sent two letters of continued interest.
Now it is clear why the waitlist admission is so low. The yield rate is 46% this year. Even they admit ~2000 less students this yield, there are over 6200 committed (by May 1st) students. So the target has met.
With many more upper-level classes than lower-level ones (that are often in giant lecture halls), I wonder why giant U’s that have the capacity and demand to do so like UMich don’t rely more on transfers (GT or others) to go more towards the 60/40 upperclassmen/lowerclassmen mix that the UC’s have. UMich certainly could do so without lowering the student body quality much.
Note that USC, with 19K undergrads, has slightly over 3K freshmen slots each year, so is even more extreme than 60/40.
Actually, the way that USC games its freshmen class profile is so extreme, it’s hilarious. USC has 19K undergrads to Cornell’s 14K undergrads, but they take in slightly less freshmen each year than Cornell.
“With many more upper-level classes than lower-level ones (that are often in giant lecture halls), I wonder why giant U’s that have the capacity and demand to do so like UMich don’t rely more on transfers (GT or others) to go more towards the 60/40 upperclassmen/lowerclassmen mix that the UC’s have. UMich certainly could do so without lowering the student body quality much.”
I believe that brand loyalty is strongest if a student starts a college in his/her freshman year in an on-campus residence hall. That bonding is not going to be as signficant for those students who enter the school in their second or later years of college. That could be one of the main reasons why Michigan has much higher endowment number than UCs, along with a more active alumni association.