Unusual Ethical Dilemma

<p>I also find it hard to believe that this could be a real scenario. Think about it. If the GC really goofed, and wanted the goof to go undetected, why would s/he even alert the student? Why not let the thing go as a total error on the GC office's account. That risks far less than telling the student and leaving themselves open to charges of fraud later. You may answer that the reason is because the GC wanted to be sure if the OP ever needed HS transcripts in the future, that he'd be clued in to the switch. But telling the OP seems to be the riskiest thing the GC could do. Also, why tell him and not the other kid? What if the other kid needs his transcript at some point for transfer, a summer program etc? HE is not going to sit back and keep quiet. It just doesn't add up, but I guess stranger things have happened.</p>

<p>As a parent and a long time reader of this board, I say tell the truth. For two reasons. Number one - it is the right thing to do. Number two - it is likely to come out - the truth usually does in situations like this.</p>

<p>I didn't really sleep much last night, because I was think about this too much. I'll just say that you guys are wrong as to the various colleges you've guessed that could've potentially admitted me. Good try though... my posts in the ivy forums do no correlate to the one I may be attending.</p>

<p>Anyways... I've come to a decision. I'm going to explain what happened in an essay. I hope they won't revoke the admissions. I don't want praise or any sort of recognition, I just want to move past this.</p>

<p>If/when this situation is remedied, I'll let you know the result...</p>

<p>You're going to regret this buddy...This can probably be your only chance to a Ivy League, which is a life-altering event in of itself...</p>

<p>I probably will regret it, but maybe not.</p>

<p>There is no ethical question. You should have the guidance office send your real transcript to the school, and ask the school to re-consider your application. You may think there is no way they will know, but it will eventually come up- they will see mid-year grades, etc. If you try to fix the situation, it won't reflect poorly on you at all- after all, you did nothing wrong. But if you choose to let this slide, when it is caught, you will be in a lot bigger trouble. Ethically, there is no question what whatsoever.</p>

<p>I am proud that you have decided to explain it, in whatever method you choose. You are doing the morally correct thing.</p>

<p>Screw Jiminey Cricket in this situation...ITS AN IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL...are you kidding me ppl?</p>

<p>Dude, if these people were in your situation, none of them would be preaching about the high road...</p>

<p>.....hotivy?</p>

<p>Wow, AznNerd...actually, I think a lot of us would. I hope we would. Except for you, I guess.</p>

<p>Doesn't a transcript have a first and last name on it? It wouldn't match to the application you sent the school anyway.</p>

<p>this is an interesting situation...
and jw, isn't it true that lots of high schools (maybe yours included?) put SAT scores right on the transcript? unless you got the exact same scores as that other person, they wouldn't match up with what the college board sent.</p>

<p>I know the kid in RL who posted this... this is completely false and untrue. He's a troll. He's probly getting a kick out of all the response this is getting. This post should be deleted or allowed to die.</p>

<p>I'm so sorry you were put in this situation; no one deserves to go through what you have. But you're definitely making the right decision by writing and explaining what happened. You would have had to send in your midyear and final reports anyway. </p>

<p>What high school do you go to?</p>

<p>For the record, Voodoovince is telling the truth about his acceptance. I was accepted to the same school and can confirm that someone from his area was accepted early (which is about 20 minutes away from me). This information is based on what he reported on the Frappr map and on another source.</p>

<p>If this isn't a troll than I would urge you to explain the situation to them in the essay. Even if you decide not to tell them and end up at an Ivy League school you're going to be surrounded by people who got accepted on their OWN merits. Classes will be rigorous and I think that if you don't have the background that the others do you'll struggle. I don't know, that's just my two cents but I wouldn't go if this happened to me.</p>

<p>Also, on colllege applications don't you have to fill in your courseload for each quarter and the grades you recieved, and then send the transcript to verify?</p>

<p>You're choosing to do the right thing. That's really good of you. It's a very hard decision, but you made the morally correct decision and it may very well pay off in the end. As other posters have mentioned, there is always a chance that the university might find out the truth sometime or another, whether you informed them of it or not. I think there is a good chance of the consequences of NOT telling being more harsh than the outcome of telling.</p>

<p>Also, your GC is way out of bounds. He's trying to save his own azz, at the expense of character and integrity. It's in no way your fault. But somehow it's become your responsiblity to expose the fault, which is sad. But as other people have said, you chose the right thing to do.</p>

<p>AznNerd, based on what you've been saying, you come across as just SAD. Competitiveness and ambition in academics is great-- to a degree. Being smart and getting accepted to an Ivy is admirable-- unless the means of getting there were wrong. Then it's just pathetic and pitiable. Like you seem.</p>

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<p>His story just doesn't make sense. The adcoms would see the discrepency between his reported schedule and the transcript sent.</p>

<p>This thread should be deleted.</p>

<p>you definitely chose to do the right thing.
who knows, they may admit you regardless of your grades. Actually I suggest in your letter that you explain why you're still qualified for admittance even without your grades. Make sure the guidance office tells the school it was not your fault. Have your GC send a letter too.</p>

<p>honestly, contrary to AznNerd's beliefs, no Ivy League undergrad education is worth living a complete lie. 10 years down the road there's no way you'll regret the decision you're making now, but I'm certain you'd regret it if you made the unethical choice. An Ivy League education is not the end all and be all; cheating to get in is..as the previous poster said..just pathetic.</p>

<p>UndeadRussian - it really makes no difference if he's a troll or not...i think the discussion was useful anyway, especially for kids who view their life's goal as getting into the Ivy League.</p>

<p>WAIT A SECOND.... im almost positive SAT scores are listed on transcipts... wouldnt the official ones sent not correlate with the ones on the transcript? your telling me the college didnt notice the different first names on the transcript and every other form that you submitted</p>

<p>YOUR FRIEND GOT INTO PRINCETON WITH YOUR TRANSCRIPT? THAT MAKES NO SENSE. IF ANYTHING YOU WOULD WANT TO TELL YOUR GUIDANCE COUNSELOR, AS YOU PROBABLY WOIULD HAVE GOTTEN INTO PRINCETON AS WELL THEN. </p>

<p>believe me guys, the poster is just a stupid tool whos full of shiiiit</p>

<p>if this is real...colleges require another transcript including senior grades sometime before enrollment so basically you'd get caught at that point and they would at the very least reevaluate you on the basis of the new information</p>

<p>what if you were to get in, accepted the offer by may, sent in your final transcript and then were denied based on dishonesty or grades? Then you'd really be in a bad place...it's a stupid and unfair risk to take</p>