<p>Could you please give me some insights for these:
Academics(work load)
Nightlife
Diversity
Guys
Athletics
Campus Dining
Transfer
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<p>Could you rank it by 1-10 near it. I can't figure it out which to choose? I am planning to transfer from penn state(if i get accpepted).
Thanks</p>
<p>ps: major-history</p>
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Which one would you most likely see the students coming for a football game?</p>
<p>Does either Cornell or UPenn have Rivalries in football or other sports?</p>
<p>Also what about the workload comparison history/chemistry/philosophy?
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<p>ok I'm also a transfer applicant, but I'll give it a shot. </p>
<p>I have lots of friends at cornell, and yeah they're into sports there. (i'm an nyu student, so into sports for me means people realize there's a football team). Um I think Cornell is competitive in hockey or something. As for workload, they were all really smart in HS, one friend was salutatorian of our class, and now he's at Cornell Arch and he says there is a LOT of work. not sure if that turns you off or on, as many cornellians seem to like doing work...
from what I hear, there is a huge greek life there, lots of parties. If you're not into that, i'm sure there's other stuff for you to do, or at least that's what my friends say. I hope I'm not disappointed by Ithaca.
i'm a transfer applicant also, and there seems to be many at cornell; a lot of them are GT applicants though, and they seem to accept a lot of CC transfers, by ivy standards anyhow.</p>
<p>For a history major, there will be no difference in terms of workload between Cornell and UPenn.</p>
<p>For night life, both Cornell and Penn are going to be heavily influenced by a strong Greek system and a fair amount of drinking. Penn obviously has the city as a diversion, but it's mostly for upperclassmen. The social scene at Cornell is definitely more varied, as you will have a lot more house parties, co-ops, along with a more varied student body, both socioeconomically and in terms of background. Cornell will definitely have more of a laid back, low key vibe, closer to what you might find at Penn State.</p>
<p>Can't really comment on the guys. I tended to think we were pretty attractive though.</p>
<p>The athletics scene is probably better in Ithaca. At Penn you have basketball and the Penn Relays. At Cornell, you have hockey, which Penn freely admits is the best sporting scene in the League. And then you also have a lot of other popular spectator sports, like lacrosse, wrestling, and basketball.</p>
<p>In terms of food, it is really no contest. Cornell wins hands down.</p>
<p>is kosher/halal food served on campus in dining halls? because at nyu and in nyc, there is no end to the amount of food jewish/muslim kids who maintain religious diets can consume, and I've gotten used to that...does cornell have dining halls with kosher/halal food? I can't go without meat very long.</p>
<p>Yes. I had never heard of kosher food before I went to Cornell. But it is there in abundance.</p>
<p>Cornell also has 109 West....a Kosher dining hall and Jewish living facility. A lot of Muslim students ate there as well. I took a course on kosher and halal food regulation during my final semester and learned a ton...and also saw how great Cornell dining is at accommodating the needs of students wishing to keep kosher.</p>
<p>you've never heard of kosher before college?! that's funny. I'm from ny and we practically have a third of the world's jewish population, so that sounds so weird to me. Kosher/halal is pretty much the same thing - animals are slaughtered so that they feel as little pain as possible, but I think Jewish people who keep kosher also have certain dietary restrictions, like they won't mix meat with dairy or something.</p>
<p>My high school was 95 percent white and 99 percent catholic.</p>
<p>I'm from New York too.</p>
<p>Yep. You can't have a cheeseburger.</p>
<p>I can have a cheeseburger...I can eat all meat, except for ham/pork. My pig eating friends tell me I don't know what I'm missing out on :)</p>
<p>The general rule of kosher is that you can't mix meat and cheese..but, you can eat cheese and have meat after an hour...if you eat meat first you can have cheese an hour later. The Chassidic Jews also don't mix fish and dairy.</p>
<p>Anyway...we're totally off topic :-D</p>
<p>Oh sorry I should have explained I'm not Jewish/kosher I'm muslim/halal. I just asked about kosher because most people don't know what halal is, and like I said, it's the same thing as kosher only without the dietary restrictions, so I can eat a cheeseburger or any combo of food except for pork.</p>
<p>Yeah, the "you" wasn't directed at anybody.</p>
<p>Fair enough. "They" can't eat cheeseburgers, you're right. It's a crying shame.</p>
<p>chemistry department?</p>
<p>I went to both Cornell and Penn (I transferred to the latter from the former), so perhaps I can answer a few of your questions. My reasons for transfer: I was paying way too much money to listen to kids mispronounce Shakespeare, so I applied to more selective schools where presumably that wouldn't happen. It worked; Penn is definitely far more selective, probably the best of the lower Ivies tied with Columbia (but after HYP, of course). The kids there are definitely smarter. </p>
<p>Here's how I looked at the whole college experience: departmental differences between these schools are negligible. Sure, if you want architecture, you should choose Cornell, but that's simply because of the specialized program. What you really need to think about is the type of student you're going to be surrounded with. Cornell does have a lot of really smart kids, but the concentration of them is indubitably higher at Penn. Plus, Penn is in a city, and only 1.5 hours from NYC, etc. When the kids in my classes open their mouths, it's almost always with something substantial and intelligent to add; at Cornell, this was definitely NOT the case.</p>
<p>Anyway, this will probably start a flame war, but it's all true. If you have a very high college GPA (3.8-4.0) and good SATs, you stand a chance at getting into Penn; I assure you that it's a better choice. If you're looking at Penn, also look into Columbia.</p>
<p>One last thing: as a transfer, you will be given a much warmer welcome at Penn. Penn only accepts about 10% of transfers, and it's a small group: 180-ish kids. At Cornell, something like 600-700 students are transfers each year, and the school places them in totally arbitrary housing all over the place. A lot of transfers I knew there said they were generally disappointed by the whole experience. Anyway, there you have it.</p>
<p>Uh.. are you sure the reason you have smarter kids in your classes at PENN isn't just that you were older when you were at PENN? Unless you found that people were smarter outside of the classroom... I can't imagine PENN completely lacking less bright students.</p>
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When the kids in my classes [at Penn] open their mouths, it's almost always with something substantial and intelligent to add.
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<p>That's the exact reason why I am choosing Cornell. You don't have to feel your somehow "smart" to speak in-class. I applaud those who have the courage to speak their opinions even if they don't phrase their perspectives in a systematic fashion to "fit in." </p>
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Plus, Penn is in a city, and only 1.5 hours from NYC, etc.
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<p>You do realize that you have the rest of your life to spare in the city, right?</p>
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The kids [at Penn] are definitely smarter.
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<p>You do realize that Cornell sends more students to Berkeley's Engineering grad school than any other universities in the U.S. (other than Berkeley itself), right?</p>
<p>What? Berkeley engineering grad school? I'm obviously not addressing the engineering school at Cornell, which is incredible and does the lion's share of making Cornell at all reputable. I was in Arts & Sciences, and the kids were by and large completely uninteresting and bland.</p>
<p>Your comment, however, came across as very stupid. You're looking at one grad school. Hooray for you.</p>
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I'm obviously not addressing the engineering school at Cornell, which is incredible and does the lion's share of making Cornell at all reputable.
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<p>Right. Cornell's significant contributions to the physical sciences and humanities, to say nothing of the applied social sciences, don't play a role in Cornell's reputation. You yourself have said that Cornell boasts one of the top philosophy departments in the country.</p>
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It worked; Penn is definitely far more selective, probably the best of the lower Ivies tied with Columbia (but after HYP, of course).
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<p>Penn Arts and Sciences is no more selective than Cornell Arts and Sciences. And I'm certain that Brown and Dartmouth would beg to differ.</p>
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When the kids in my classes open their mouths, it's almost always with something substantial and intelligent to add; at Cornell, this was definitely NOT the case.
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<p>A lot of this is due to the first year experience at Cornell, where you will find Hotel students or Engineering students trying to find their way around the humanities requirements like the writing seminars. I had similar doubts when I was a freshman. But rest assured, when you are taking upper level English courses or philosophy courses, this is not a problem. </p>
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Penn only accepts about 10% of transfers, and it's a small group: 180-ish kids. At Cornell, something like 600-700 students are transfers each year, and the school places them in totally arbitrary housing all over the place. A lot of transfers I knew there said they were generally disappointed by the whole experience.
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<p>The housing issue was a one-year situation due to construction on West Campus. Now all transfers are placed in blocks with other transfer students either in the dorms or the residential colleges.</p>
<p>All of my friends who were transfers at Cornell were blown away by the seemingly limitless amount of resources and opportunities relative to their previous colleges, which included places like NYU, Notre Dame, SUNY-Binghamton, and Dartmouth. In many respects, they actually had a better experience at Cornell than students who started their freshman year, because they didn't suffer from a "grass is greener" philosophy.</p>