<p>do i need any prerequisites to sign up for upper div history?
for example:
121F
122D
123A
136A
etc</p>
<p>im a freshman by the way..</p>
<p>for first pass, you need to be a declared prehistory or history major to enroll in upper div classes. that gives us actual students a chance to get classes before the priority hogs lol. second pass is open to all.</p>
<p>you can be prehistory just by going to the counselor in bunche and telling them you want to be.</p>
<p>but you wouldnt want to do that unless you want to be a history major!</p>
<p>haha im chemical engineering
but i like history too...</p>
<p>^Basically Namaste said it well. Which classes are those you listed, I know I took them all actually, but it's been a while and I've forgotten the numbers.</p>
<p>plenty of upper div history should be open second pass. the exceptions are popular professors (corey, ruiz) or cool sounding classes with good times (i.e. US history at 3:30 m/w)</p>
<p>would it be unwise to take an upper div history class because i am a freshman? i would be competing with upper classmen right?
the reason i want to take upper div is because those classes sound a lot more interesting than the lower div ones. i want to take history courses on europe..</p>
<p>if you have a true interest and skill in history it shouldnt be a problem. i actually prefer upper div classes, they take less time out of your schedule and usually have less assignments. drawback is you dont get to have a TA to micromanage your life. its more independent.</p>
<p>there's no discussion?</p>
<p>no, unless you are taking history 97 or 191.</p>
<p>As a freshmen last year, I was a bit hesitant to take an upper division history course my spring quarter(after finishing the only three pre reqs), but I took 113B with Phillips, and I got an A, and I'm taking another one now. If you study hard and care about your grade you will do fine. there's no TA to make sure you understand everything, you have to do it yourself. </p>
<p>Also, i'm all for having a separate interest, but what do you intend to get out of upper div history? Especially since you probably will be busy with chemical Engineering. Too bad the history department does not offer a minor.</p>
<p>Is that Ancient Greece? I took 114A with Langdon and loved it. </p>
<p>I spoke with the history department about a minor and the primary reason is that it is a congested enough major. </p>
<p>No, it's fine to take an upper-division history class as a freshman. I preferred it to the survey courses because it was more focused and I felt I didn't have to be so wishy-washy with constructing essays. European history courses?! Lord, where would one begin?! Don't forget to look in other departments for say, specifically Russian history or German history etc. It's not strictly limited to the history department when there are Slavic, Germanic, and Francophone majors.</p>
<p>TA to micromanage your life - I found my history discussion sections useless. Boring, unengaging, and two hours too long!</p>
<p>nvm you're a first year</p>
<p>Take history 139b, I think it's on US from 1865-1900?? It's t/th from 8-9 but professor Waugh is amazing and it's not hard at all to get an A (I studied for about 2 hours/night for 3 days before the midterm and got 100%... 1/3 multiple choice, 1/3 matching, 1/3 ID..of which you are given a list beforehand)</p>
<p>ook i'll consider it. im more interested in european history though
thanks!</p>
<p>Well, it's not like all of these courses are offered every quarter. It's just going to be dependent (which shouldn't matter too much because of the size of the history department and its system of adjunct professors, lecturers, and actual professors) in procuring any desired course with some semblance to your ideal. Good luck.</p>
<p>Wow silly, you're in my exact position right now! Are you taking any history classes this quarter? It sucks that we only need 2 to fulfill the GE >_>:;</p>
<p>haha no im not taking any history right now.
i want to though. im either going to do history 121F(i think that's the right #..) or the class on film criticism. hahaha</p>
<p>hmm.... after some time, after say... rote memorization and the acquired and refined ability to say, parse arguments, find holes and discrepancies, attune it to the biases of the instructor possibly and with enough courage, to address any discrepancies if you've the capability workaholicism or pendanticness- or otherwise- to fight for its cause etc + scholarship ---- </p>
<p>it becomes routine and almost rote in terms of the abitliesi ... and they become futher attuned along with your ability to avoid logical say, erring + closedmindness with regarsd to your discussion sections and sya, the implied difficulty of the course from bitter students on bruinwalk.</p>