<p>Is this true?</p>
<p>Discuss...</p>
<p>whats URM?</p>
<p>Nothing is automatic at the elite colleges, although perfect test scores place you in distinctly small company and in a position to achieve likely acceptance at most top-tier schools.</p>
<p>Your GPA, subject test scores, ECs and essays will still count and may ensure an easier path to the large envelope you seek on April 1!</p>
<p>urm is underrepresented minority @yasmin</p>
<p>No admission is automatic, especially at Harvard. Unfortunately, as fabulous as those scores are, there are others with the same results, and the adcoms look at lots of other criteria.</p>
<p>xzibit: </p>
<p>If a URM applicant has 2400 (36 ACT) + 3.9 GPA, unless one has some negative criminal record, je or she is extremely completive. It is not virtual lock but every single college will look this candidate very closely and will admit unless something unusual come across in recommendations. </p>
<p>If you have it, congratulations.</p>
<p>However, if the kid is URM and have a low socio economic status then the candidates are are very rare. Not many poor URM have 2400 and 4.0 GPA. They are virtually guaranteed provided the URM need lots of need based aid to graduate to college. And student has no problems in recommendations. There are few students who are in those shoes at HYP.</p>
<p>For record if a student is not a URM and have a zero EFC, they have 3.9 GPA and 2400, and few extracurricular activities that shows them they are pursuing intellectual growth, there chances go up too.</p>
<p>Majority of the admitted URM ((AA or Hispanics) are coming from affluent families. You will rarely find a student from inner city of Chicago or New York City who has 4.0 GPA and 2400 SAT. These kids will be virtually guaranteed as their socio economic background is very desirable for diversity sake to IVY leagues.</p>
<p>Since they are not available, Ivy leagues takes next best URM kids who are coming from far better economic background than the inner city URM kids. There are still not many URM Kids who have 4.0 GPA and 2400 SAT. Thus a URM kids with 2400 SAT and 4.0 GPA chances improve much more as compare to kids from other races.</p>
<p>Thanks for all of the responses everyone!</p>
<p>No, especially if it is a wealthy URM. He or she still needs to be the complete package or an athlete.</p>
<p>What constitutes wealth? I mean my parents make a bit over 100K, but we are middle class. At places like Harvard wouldn’t wealth have to be about 300K or more?</p>
<p>100k is nowhere near poor.</p>
<p>There is a strong distinction between poor and middle class. Considering 100k qualifies you for Harvard’s financial aid, I’d say it falls comfortably within middle class (especially considering the policy’s colloquial name as the middle class financial aid initiative). Past middle class it’s all gravy anyways.</p>
<p>What about international students with perfect SAT scores?</p>
<p>No Dr. Science, it doesn’t work like that for us unfortunately :(</p>
<p>Because plenty of Koreans (sorry just statistics) get near perfect SAT scores, 5-10 APs (all 5s) and perfect SAT IIs and obviously great GPAs because they work much much harder statistically then any other country yet get rejected in the dozens by HYPSM simply because they are a dime in a dozen. Its the same but to a much less drastic scenario with Indians, Chinese and some other countries like that.</p>
<p>Internationals are always at disadvantage here.</p>
<p>my friend had 2400, was salutorian, 3 season varsity captain, and very involved in theater and band. absollutely perfect in every way and he was waitlisted and didnt get in off it. (class of 2012) i know he wasnt URM, but still, ridiculous</p>
<p>Just another thing to note, there have only been a handful of African-American students who have achieved a 2400.</p>
<p>Im a URM, 4.0, and 36 with (I think) great ECs. I consider myself middle class, even tho my dad’s salary is like $160k, but my mom goes to college and my bro goes to private school, knocking us down to like $120k… Our efc got screwed on the fafsa4caster, but I hope colleges this coming year think differently.</p>
<p>Is the 120k before or after taxes and other deductions? If it’s before, then you’re only expected to pay 12k per year.</p>
<p>36 ACT is a little different than 2400 SAT, mind you. The ACT is usually considered to be a bit lower, but not by much.</p>
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Better get used to this. It’s actually pretty commonplace.</p>