<p>chicago is not going to rise, they did have that big $100 mil donation, but that donation was only made a big deal because it was a single donor, schools receive contributions to their endowments of that size all the time, just not from single donors.</p>
<p>northwestern will rise, 18% increase in applicants this year vs. chicago's 8.5%, and the applicant pool had a higher SAT average than in years past. acceptance rate down, test scores up, northwestern up too.</p>
<p>Do you think that the methodology will change (e.g. slightly different weightings) or do you expect it to remain the same?</p>
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Chicago might go up a bit with big alumni donations this year, much larger than past years.
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chicago is not going to rise, they did have that big $100 mil donation, but that donation was only made a big deal because it was a single donor
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USNWR's rule for Alumni Giving - "The average percent of undergraduate alumni of record who donated money to the college or university... Undergraduate alumni donors are alumni with undergraduate degrees from an institution that made one or more gifts for either current operations or capital expenses during the specified academic year..."</p>
<p>USNWR counts only the number of alumni who made donation(s) to the university; the size of the donation doesn't matter. Thus the alum who donated $100M counts as much as one who donated $10.</p>
<p>If they add a Pell Grant component to the 'expected graduation rate,' then that may change things for schools who have a big gap between expected and actual. Not sure if they'll do that, but they've been kicking it around. </p>
<p>If they do, I think Michigan could slip from the top 25 because its current gap is pretty big (in a favorable direction), and I think it would narrow if they adjusted for Pell Grant attendees. But this is just conjecture. I'd rather it didn't fall from the Top 25. Sensible people know that a university doesn't become worse in the course of year just because USNews changed a formula, but I expect there would be much hand-wringing amongst some alums about "loss of prestige" and the University would have to spend time and energy soothing and reassuring them.</p>
<p>I second SOcal. University of Miami will Definately rise!
With their record high endowments of over 1 billion plus total, and their increases selectivity this year, I just really cant forsee a drop.
Mayby they might surpass UF even though thats a long shot as its 5 spots.</p>
<p>I'm thinking UF will go up considerably.</p>
<p>Nothing from class of 2011 admissions will count.</p>
<p>emory will also drop because i heard they've been reporting SAT scores incorrectly all these years (publishing admitted vs. enrolled) and their new 50 percent range is much lower (i believe the 25th is 1270!)</p>
<p>when do the new rankings come out</p>
<p>In August.</p>
<p>But doesn't that nice fat 100 mil still count towards financial resources? And they've almost reached their 2 billion mark with their Chicago initiative. And the admissions rate dropped a little and apps rose and so did yield I think (they couldn't accept anyone off the waitlist IIRC)</p>
<p>I don't know how much higher it can rise; 9 is pretty high. I couldn't see it dropping below 11th though.</p>
<p>Whatever, as long as we're above Northwestern.</p>
<p>I'd like to see Gtown and UMD rise a bit :)</p>
<p>"Whatever, as long as we're above Northwestern."</p>
<p>As long as you continue to conspire to contrive a better ranking.... :rolleyes:</p>
<p>kk19191
haha, yeah i know. but come on, you guys have the sports, the better chicks, the better job recruiting, the better alumni network, i think you can let us have this one little victory ;)</p>
<p>MuffinKing: But they don't have sense of humor, they are mean. and... They are not confident.</p>
<p>You can see NU kids attack UChicago very often. But not the other way around. That indicates something, huh? :-)</p>
<p>"You can see NU kids attack UChicago very often. But not the other way around. That indicates something, huh?"</p>
<p>That Chicago kids are lame? :)</p>
<p>I do believe that the Northwestern student government declared war on Chicago a few years back, and to my knowledge, that war has yet to end. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Although it won't be implemented in the upcoming rankings, USNWR has long been considering adding a "social mobility" measure to it's ranking methodology by considering the percentage of students recieving Pell Grants. If this was to happen, the following schools would benefit greatly:</p>
<p>UCLA, USC, UF, Texas, Syracuse, NYU.</p>
<p>Most of the East Coast elites (Including the Ivies) would suffer from the new measure, as they have very few low-income students.</p>
<p>Interesting article, with university rankings by percent of student body recieving Pell Grants:
<a href="http://chronicle.com/free/v52/i36/36a00101.htm%5B/url%5D">http://chronicle.com/free/v52/i36/36a00101.htm</a></p>
<p>Since when is the top 5-10% a "bad rank"?</p>
<p>If top 5-10% is bad, then I'm in a whole lot of trouble.</p>
<p>"You can see NU kids attack UChicago very often. But not the other way around. That indicates something, huh? :-)"</p>
<p>Actually, as an outsider, it came across to me being the other way around when I read the UChicago v. NU threads, lots of UChicago kids who HATE being called a peer to NU while stating they're comparable to Columbia :-) but everyone's entitled to their opinions, right?</p>
<p>"They are not confident."</p>
<p>Mmhmm. And evidently you are.</p>
<p>In terms of ranking, I'm pretty sure there won't be a lot of change in the top 20s. Cornell and Brown might rise, Wash U just needs to stop rising. It's not pretty.</p>
<p>whats up w/ wash.u? So many ppl dont seem to like it, even here on my campus...
Lots predict U-Florida, UMiami and USC will rise though...and they predict WSU (my school) will soon fall...thats not good.</p>