US News 2008 to 2009?

<p>What do you expect to see changed from the US News 2008 to US News 2009? I believe the 2009 comes out August.</p>

<p>Brown up, Washington down, Duke down, Penn down, Georgetown up, Tufts up, NYU up, Miami up, Carnegie Mellon down.</p>

<p>I wonder when are they expected to come out?</p>

<p>one key factor is gonna make a big difference this year in usnwr rankings and that is the highest ever number of college applicants. this means the acceptance rates for top schools gonna be lower, giving better enroll rates/yields. so who's gonna benefit. my guess is</p>

<p>all ivies (except maybe cornell) plus stanford, mit and perhaps u chicago (because of its change to common apps and more popularity). so brown, stanford, and likely u chicago should be up. downs would go to cornell (nothing wrong with them but other ivies getting more benefits from larger applicant pools; cornell already has the biggest study body and little to gain from the pool) and maybe caltech and/or upenn.</p>

<p>also the increasing in-state applicants may have a somewhat negative impact on ucb and ucla in terms of diversity and selectivity and thus they may be a couple of notches down. but it's all just a guess. it could be all wrong. just have to wait and see the results in aug.</p>

<p>by the way, it's gonna have some big effect on lacs too but honestly i don't know enough to give opinion.</p>

<p>Hopefully Duke is out of top 10, WashU is out of top 15, state schools such as Berkeley and UMich are given their due, Penn out of top 5.</p>

<p>Penn drops (selectivity isnt going up as much as other schools) Georgetown breaks top twenty (first time in a while beacuse of torrent of EA applicants), Harvard number one, Brown goes up to 11 Chicago goes up to top 5 (incresed selectivity b/c of EA)</p>

<p>What about a school like Northeastern? Its acceptance rate drop from in the 50% range to 39%. Being from Boston I can tell you, Northeastern is much better than UMass-Amherst, which is tied with it.
I also expect to see UC-Berkeley rise. Some of the LACs are tough to determine.</p>

<p>bump out of curiosity</p>

<p>When do these come out?
My guess would be H (1) YP(2)SM Cal Tech/Uchicago (7) Penn, Columbia, and maybe Dartmouth/Duke (tied) to round out the top 10? I doubt Chicago will go all the way to five, especially since the acceptance rate overall was still around 28%. Yield there probably won't even exceed 40% (just a hunch) However, that is indicative of the self-selecting nature of the application, and I think the 2009-2010 issue will have U of C at around 5 with the added applications from the switch to common app. I'm also pretty sure Duke's days of being in the top 5 are done.</p>

<p>I believe they are due to come out in August but I'm not 100% sure</p>

<p>Yeah, they're usually released in August.</p>

<p>I would think Chicago makes the biggest jump next year when it goes to the Common App.</p>

<p>My guess...</p>

<ol>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>California Institute of Technology</li>
<li>Massachussetts Institute of Technology</li>
<li>Duke University</li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li>Columbia University</li>
<li>Dartmouth College</li>
<li>University of Chicago</li>
</ol>

<p>do you mean u of c going for common app would increase its popularity thus taking it to a top rank??</p>

<p>any predictions of LACs??</p>

<p>Amherst > Williams. ;)</p>

<p>let me try......</p>

<p>1) harvard
2) princeton
3) yale<br>
4) stanford
5) mit
5) caltech
7) u chicago
8) u penn
9) duke
10) columbia
10) dartmouth</p>

<p>usually uswr top 10 does change slightly, one or two notches if at all. stanford should take up top 3 but it's so difficult to break the top 3 hyp which has dominated the top rankings for a long while. u chicago had been slightly underrated for a long while but it's time for them to move up now.</p>

<p>well, like the elite schools they survey, uswr rankings needs diversity as well. six from ne (hypm plus upenn/columbia), two from west (stanford/caltech), one midwest (u chicago)
and of course one from south (duke). come to think of it the mixture of 6+2+1+1 looks nice and quite well balanced. and i guess it's likely to stay that way for a while.</p>

<p>U.S. News's data is a year behind iirc, so the effect this year had won't really be seen until the 2010 edition.</p>

<p>For instance, in America's Best Colleges 2008 (most recent edition), the data is for the fall 2006 entering class.</p>

<p>how is chicago underrated? anyhow, heres my guess (stanford's yield seems to be increasing every year)</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Princeton/Stanford</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Columbia/Chicago/Dartmouth</li>
<li>Duke/Brown</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Washington/JHU/Rice</li>
<li>Berkeley/Emory</li>
<li>NW/CMU</li>
<li>Virginia</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>Vanderbilt/NotreDamn/USC</li>
<li>Tufts/UCLA</li>
<li>Georgia Tech</li>
<li>NYU/NorthCarolina</li>
</ol>

<p>Can anybody verify if US News is indeed a year behind?</p>