<p>There are many more business than chemistry majors. If you took the top business majors equal to the number of chem majors you probably will not find much difference. Any major with a large number of students will tend to be closer to average by test scores.</p>
<p>"No, simply pursuing a an undergraduate degree in business does not make someone stupid. I've never, ever said that. All I've ever implied is that business majors, on average, are not as intelligent as, say, chemistry majors."</p>
<p>That's a pretty dumb thing to say. </p>
<p>Chemistry is indeed a difficult a science but a student who makes through it isn't inherently smarter than your average business student.</p>
<p>maybe the average business major is just as smart, but just more greedy........</p>
<p>Dumber at most schools, smarter at UVA.</p>
<p>I am a physician. My undergrad degree is in microbiology. I presently am practicing medicine and wish I had taken more business courses. Several points:</p>
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<li><p>If I liked the opportunity of running a business and got my degree in business rather than microbiology, would that mean that I am not as smart?</p></li>
<li><p>If I didn't want to work 12-13h daily, work weekends, get awakened frequently at odd hours in the night, would that mean I am not as smart?</p></li>
<li><p>If i were to get a business degree would I work for a "Business" company or could I work for a chemical company, medical group, pharmaceutical co., law firm, acct. firm, myself. It would seem that a business degree might help you work the business aspect of a myriad of companies and you could learn that company's business (i.e. chemistry) if you wanted and would allow you to do a better job of running the business aspect of the Chem. Co. </p></li>
<li><p>If the acceptance rate for those aplying to commerce is 70% of thoise who apply, then that should be compared to the "acceptance rate" of first year engineers,chemists, etc. who "apply" or decide to become second year students.</p></li>
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<p>don't quite understand your 4th point - please elaborate...</p>
<p>My 4th point (which I didn't explain well) was that to get into the commerce school you must aply after your first year and get accepted (or rejected). We are comparing the acceptance rates for that application. However, to get into the second year of "engineering school" (or whatever your major is) all you have to do is become a 2nd year. There is no application to become a sophomore in any other major. So if we are comparing acceptance rates in other majors then if you come back for your second year, then you are in, so the acceptance rate is even easier than the commerce school. It is 100%. Certainly the engineering majors who flunk out as first years aren't back for the second, but that is true for potential applicants to the commerce school as well.</p>
<p>So: acceptance to commerce is easy- it's 70%, but acceptance to the secod year of other majors is even easier- it's 100%</p>
<p>^^You don't apply to Comm school until the second semester of second year.</p>
<p>then he meant third year.</p>
<p>anyway, the acceptance rate of chem major is nearly 100%.</p>
<p>I think we need to establish a measure of intellegence here. I'm in high school, and even I know there are different forms of intelligence. A Chem major may be a stereotypical "mathlete," but what happens when he has to play an instrument or write a poem? I think business students encompass a diverse sense of intellegence, and therefore, may not seem brighter than someone who does calculus in his head.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if affirmative action applies to the comm school? just out of curiosity. The comm school is pretty homogeneous it seems, so do people think it should to increase diversity?</p>
<p>Of course it has preferential admissions policies - nearly every institution has them these days. The homogeneity of the student body likely has a lot more to do with the people applying that anything, though. But if it doesn't - who cares?</p>
<p>"No, not shallow. Genuinely intelligent people generally follow their academic interests - not vocational interests."</p>
<p>--> And what if my interests genuinely lie in commerce? Commerce is not necessarily vocational. You are truly ridiculous.</p>
<p>"I've never, ever said that. All I've ever implied is that business majors, on average, are not as intelligent as, say, chemistry majors."</p>
<p>--> How can you measure intelligence in this comparative manner? One's intelligence is specific to one or more areas, and it cannot be generalized.</p>
<p>comm school is not THAT homogeneous. there is a lot of racial diversity (large amount of asians and blacks), not just white fratboys.</p>
<p>who doesn't want to make 100 grand a year out of college?</p>
<p>nobody makes 100 grand a year out of the comm school.</p>
<p>can anyone answer this..
McIntire School of Commerce
Elementary Accounting (6) - Financial and Managerial
Principles of Economics (6) - Micro and Macro
English Composition (3)
Mathematics (6) - One course in statistics (descriptive and inferential) and one course in either calculus or probability.
Humanities and Fine Arts (3) - One Course before enrollment. Two other courses - one in humanities, and one in social science, natural science, or physical science - are required before graduation and may be taken either before or after entering the McIntire School. A course in public speaking is strongly recommended.
Foreign Languages - Varies. Demonstrated proficiency equal to the intermediate level of college instruction.
Comm 180 - Introduction to business/computer useage course.
Important: The McIntire School requires a minimum of 54 semester-hours of college work for admission. In addition to the general policies governing transfer of credit, the McIntire School will not award credits for independent study; business courses beyond the elementary courses in accounting and economics; or remedial courses. </p>
<p>--these are the prerequesites. are there any humanities/ misc courses i will need to take after i come to UVA?
-- how do i findo ut if i am exempt from foreign language.. i took 5 years in high school. is that enough to show proficiency
-- anyone taking IT in the comm school.. can you share your thoughts about that and give me link what courses I will be taking?
-- stupid question saved for last.. one of my friends said, all comm students take this class that requires like 14 hours/ week effort is that true? thanks</p>
<p>• COMM 300 - The Integrated Core Experience<br>
• COMM 301 - Strategy and Systems<br>
• COMM 302 - Behavioral Issues in Marketing and Management<br>
• COMM 303 - Quantitative and Financial Analysis<br>
• COMM 304 - Strategic Value Creation<br>
• COMM 305 - Human Element in Organizations<br>
• COMM 306 - Global Visioning in a Changing Competitive Environment </p>
<p>i found this list also.. are these the classes every 3rd/ 4th year has to take in addition to the other required classes. it seems like a lot of classes. do most people to take over the summer as well?</p>
<p>crichessill, every student in the college of arts & sciences must meet distribution requirements unless he or she is an Echols Scholar. You will have to meet them either with APs or classes taken here. You can exempt yourself from having to take a language if you score well on the language SAT 2, the AP exam, or the department's placement exam (I think). Check the department's website for that information.</p>
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<p>You must understand that classes in college are more difficult, more competitive and significantly less grade inflated than the classes you're taking in high school. You will have to work substantially harder at a college like UVA than you did in HS no matter how smart you are.</p>
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<p>That's not a lot of classes - 21 credit hours. The ICE is split between the fall and spring semesters of the third year, with 12 credits in the fall and 9 in the spring. People take additional courses on top of that. Expect to take ~15 credits per semester, possibly more. Next semester, I will be taking 19 credits. There's no reason you'd have to take classes over the summer - - in fact, you'd probably spend the summer before your 4th year doing an internship.</p>
<p>i am not in high school now. i am a sophomore in virginia tech. so i have an idea of how hard it will be. So what do you think of the foreign language thing? Do I have to take another course? also, i heard that UVA has courses in winter session as well is that true. Also, I was planning to take some of ICE courses at virginia tech next semester. Is that a good idea? Would those courses be carried over to UVA or would i have to take those again</p>