<p>Feel better this morning. My D woke up to relief at being deferred. She felt that she “should” go to UVA if she had been accepted because (along with an Ivy) it was so hard to get in OOS. She has been accepted to places which she feels fit her better. I’m so glad because fit is what really matters and secretly I have big issues with UVA (not so big that I wanted to kill what I thought she really wanted). Any school that can pull a coup to oust its President as UVA did (even if eventually it got fixed) sends up major red flags for me. I wouldn’t go to work for a company that pulled that and I didn’t feel great about the prospect of my D going to a college that did.</p>
<p>Just my feelings, onward and upward and good luck to all.</p>
<p>@Bigdoglover: I appreciate your candor. I have reservations about UVA too, for several different reasons. But there are also a lot of positives, and no school is perfect. (I’ve worked for some rather imperfect companies as well!)</p>
<p>It’s currently my son’s first choice (he was offered), so I’m not going to stand in his way. I think he’s mature enough to make his choice work for him.</p>
<p>Good luck to your daughter. I agree, fit is the most important. (My son ignored rankings for the most part.)</p>
<p>I’m happy with my deferral. Considering getting into UVA oos is like getting into duke… 3.83 uw gpa, 1400/2060, good essays(I think this kept me in it), good recs, okay ECs, good class rank, white male</p>
<p>@exstudent - Congrats to your son! Regardless of any issues at all it is an amazing accomplishment to get accepted at UVA these days. I did not mean to minimize anyones accomplishment at all.</p>
<p>You are so right about no place being perfect. I also agree with kids (at least some) being mature enough to decide on their own. Its exactly why I never raised any of my concerns to my D. I mostly just read CC threads for info - I think too many are using it as a way to relive college - I truly can’t believe some of what I read. I guess that whole President thing was just mind-boggling to me personally - fortunately I think it will have little impact on your S and the students of UVA.</p>
<p>Best of luck to your S. You should be so proud of him.</p>
<p>There are so many cases where you just don’t feel like a final decision can be made on an application with work without work from senior year in the file.</p>
<p>By the way, GPAs without including the scale and weighting in place at the school aren’t all that meaningful. The scales are all over the place these days. I post the more interesting GPA scales on Twitter when I come across them, if you’re curious in seeing some of what we see.</p>
<p>@DeanJ,
It seems not to matter how many times it’s said that GPAs between schools are not comparable without the frame of reference, there are those who still obsess over them. And over SAT scores, class rankings, univ rankings, yield, OBP, … ok, just kidding about the last one.</p>
<p>@Bigdoglover,
Thanks. We are indeed very proud of our son, because of who he is. I know most/all parents here would empathize with this sentiment: we wouldn’t have been any less proud of him if he’d been deferred/denied.</p>
<p>You can search someone’s twitter feed using sites like snapbird.com. It’s really helpful when you know you’ve seen something, but you can’t quite remember when it came up. </p>
<p>I hope the reason why they’re being so hard on the OOS kids is because they want to allow more in state kids to get in. It is a state-school, after all, and it seems nothing short of ridiculous that some very qualified kids are getting rejected from UVa. Alas, Virginia’s caliber is a double edged sword.</p>
<p>Deferred OOS.
3.93 UW. 4.25 W
29 ACT (this killed me)
Upward trend
URM
High Income (saying this because I thought being able to pay full freight to a state school OOS was helpful)
Very good essays
Pretty good ECs</p>
<p>The OOS thing was made very clear in the admisssions presentation during our visit: we were told that UVA targets roughly 2/3 of the incoming class to be from VA, and that competition for the remaining 1/3 from OOS has become increasingly tough.</p>
<p>I myself think it’s a very reasonable compromise. I’ve read that there’s some discussion about UVA going private or partially private (like Cornell), but I’m sure that’s not a simple change.</p>
<p>Is the OOS difficulty of admission disproportionate to the quality of the academic offerings? It doesn’t seem that way.</p>
<p>Virginiuh, The ratio hasn’t changed so they aren’t targeting more Virginia students. Enrollment is being incrementally increased over several years, however the ratio is not changing. </p>
<p>JustinBryce, at some schools being OOS full-pay would indeed be a factor. UVa is need blind. The admissions office and financial aid offices are separate and distinct. Admissions has no idea who has/will file for aid when reviewing a file so it’s not a factor here.</p>
<p>Also deferred… Having mixed feelings about it, on one hand it’s nice to not have gotten a flat out rejection but on the other hand it stinks to not know for sure.
Hearing back from UNC Chapel Hill this week (so I’ve heard) so I hope there’s good news on that front!</p>