<p>Hi, I'm applying undecided to the school of arts and science at Wisconsin, and undecided at the LAS school at Illinois, furthermore undecided at Wake Forest and Oxford college of emory. </p>
<p>Location: CA</p>
<p>ACT: 27, but math 28 and english 32</p>
<p>AP's: Span- 5 Eng- 4 US History- 3</p>
<p>GPA: 3.28 @wisco, and oxford college of emory
3.36 @ illinois, wake forest</p>
<p>ECs listed on app: football, track, was in 2 clubs, and work</p>
<p>Job/Work Experience: did finances that were really receipts at a family friend's company and also had a job there too</p>
<p>Essays (subject and responses): pretty darn good.</p>
<p>Teacher Recs: better than great</p>
<p>Counselor Rec: great</p>
<p>School Type: Private, does not rank</p>
<p>Ethnicity: Hispanic, I hope this helps a lot.</p>
<p>Gender:M</p>
<p>thank you. i really hope AA helps me out at some of these places a lot</p>
<p>Oh ok so you're banking on "affirmative action" for an easy way in, since your grades aren't quite up to par. Are you trying to **** other people off on purpose? </p>
<p>I don't understand how underqualified people can be under the delusion that them being black, hispanic, or any other minority race, actually guarantees them preferential treatment in the admissions process, especially WHEN THE COLLEGE APPLICATION EXCLUSIVELY DECLARES "[college name] makes no distinction on the basis of race, color, national origin, sex, age, religion, political affiliation, handicap, veteran's status, or any other non-merit factor" (or something to that effect) ON THE BOTTOM.</p>
<p>Your race alone won't get you in. That's not what affirmative action is. Affirmative action won't help you, I'm sorry.</p>
<p>no no no. i'm just hoping it helps a bit. that's all</p>
<p>i know that it doesn't work like that, but i also know that it can help a little, and i'm hoping it does help that little bit. and i hope that i'm not ****ing anyone off, and if so, that's not what my intention was. so i'm sorry</p>
<p>^^^u're not *<strong><em>ing anyone off man...don't worry
TValentine is just *</em></strong>ed cuz he isnt a URM......a yes being a URM gets a HUGE BOOST</p>
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no no no. i'm just hoping it helps a bit. that's all</p>
<p>i know that it doesn't work like that, but i also know that it can help a little, and i'm hoping it does help that little bit. and i hope that i'm not ****ing anyone off, and if so, that's not what my intention was. so i'm sorry
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Don't bank on AA. Just a few questions, what do you think AA does? You think you deserve to go to a school more than a white person who has better grades than you, just because you're of a minority race? AA won't help you at all. The ONLY instance that AA would do anything is if there are no other applicants who have "better" applications than you, and your application is up against an application of someone of equal caliber from a majority race. </p>
<p>I'm not being mean, I'm just being honest. I'm sure you're a charming, sweet, guy, but if your application isn't "up to par" with other applications in academics, then your race will do absolutely nadda for you. You need to understand this so you can select which schools you apply to accordingly. I don't want your dreams crushed.</p>
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^^^u're not *<strong><em>ing anyone off man...don't worry
TValentine is just *</em></strong>ed cuz he isnt a URM......a yes being a URM gets a HUGE BOOST</p>
<p>and yes u're in at all those.
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Everything about this post is wrong. </p>
<p>You made my eyebrows raise with your very first assumption that I'm ****ed, then you lost me with your next assumption I'm a HE, and then you completely lost any credibility you had left when you assumed I'm not a URM. </p>
<p>You're quite obviously proud of posting things you don't have any clue about, so I guess that explains why you so freely claim that affirmative action will give a "HUGE BOOST" to this poor guy. Quit lying to him. Unless, of course, you can back up your claim with evidence--when have URM's been selected, even though they applied without proper grades?</p>
<p>check both the Columbia and Dartmouth 2012 decisions threads, and look for hispanics...
just sayin'.....before taking my credibility away, do some research.</p>
<p>^ensure that a higher rate of qualified minorities are getting into college than what it has been in the past. the key word is "qualified." you have to be qualified first before you can expect AA to give you a boost. </p>
<p>his stats are basically in the middle 50% range for pretty much all those schools, even though his GPA is more towards the lower 25% than the upper 75%. so the point is that he's still qualified, and being Hispanic will probably increase his chances.</p>
<p>i'll repeat what i said, you're probably in at all of those schools.</p>
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^ensure that a higher rate of qualified minorities are getting into college over qualified majorities than what it has been in the past. the key word is "qualified." you have to be qualified first before you can expect AA to give you a boost. </p>
<p>his stats are basically in the middle 50% range for pretty much all those schools, even though his GPA is more towards the lower 25% than the upper 75%. so the point is that he's still qualified, and being Hispanic will probably increase his chances.</p>
<p>i'll repeat what i said, you're probably in at all of those schools.
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<p>nice post thumbs up! However, it won't increase his chances, his chances are the same. It just slighty decreases the chances of whatever white person it is that's "against" him. </p>
<p>I hadn't looked at the stats for those schools, but if you say he's in mid-range, then I agree with everything else you said.</p>
<p>ok just to like end this little feud which i really didn't want to instigate at all. blue_g8orade: thank you for the posts, i appreciate them a lot. </p>
<p>Tvalentine: to me, as a guy who would like to think he knows his way around the college system, i think that AA helps you if you're on the borderline, it helps you get over the top. all that stuff. EX. a friend of mine last year got into wisconsin with a 3.0. Wisconsin does use AA, it's a well known fact, hell they even admit it. his sat's were good too, but if you paired him to someone else who's not urm who has a 3.3 with the same sat's, i'm going to guess they take the urm b/c of the AA. that's all i'm saying, and i don't mean to instigate any arguments here. I appreciate your thoughts, though, and understand exactly where you're coming from. i think it's simply a matter of misunderstanding between us in what we think AA means and how i hope it can help me.</p>