<p>the version from Theodore Dresser publications and arranged by Daniel Dorff yea i bought it form sam ash... i dont use intrnet sheet music... lil killer29 you're from nyc i see so did you do NYSMMA if so what level and song?</p>
<p>I didn't think ziegeunerweisen was difficult at all..technically. I played it in 8th grade, and lets just say i had a much more difficult time playing mendellssohn for some odd reason. Then again, I'm a REALLY ODD PERSON. Tenths, fingered octaves, any kind of right hand bowing is real easy for me. Guess what's hard? Arpeggios. what the hecK? I think, what is considered difficult is totally subjective..Peopel say tenths and fingered octaves is hard. To me, give me about 20 minutes on a passage containing those and i'll probably nail it. give me a strange arpeggio *like the beginning of the cadenza in sibelius movement1 * AND itll take me weeks to do it. </p>
<p>im playing sibelius right now, its technically not as difficult as everyone makes it out to be.. but i guess the things that are hard for everyone else is easy for me. yet the more unstable passages for me are the ones evryone seems to nail no problem. (haha all the um. arpeggios.)</p>
<p>ysaye! most difficult in my opinion. but ive only heard it, not play it, so i cant be the judge. you know you are probably loads better than you think ;)</p>
<p>I'm playing Sibelius violin concerto too!! i love the opening theme, it's so chillingly beautiful. i practice time just playing it over haha. and the ending is pretty intense. that's awesome that you can nail tenths and fingered octaves like that. double stops, especially those two, are my biggest nightmare. big hand i presume? i always feel like i'm about to dislocate my pinkie in fingered octaves</p>
<p>OP that's so cool you're playing the whole bruch. i just finished the entire concerto as well. last movement was a nightmare since i struggle with double stops and getting good tone quality articulating them. i hope i never have to play mendelssohn. people in my youth orchestra would convene in a giant circle and play it together every week and i am so sick of it now. but i guess it's a great piece, overlooking my grudge.</p>
<p>i don't know about joshua bell. his playing seems a bit mellow/underprojected. then again, i don't think i've ever heard him perform any major concerto. hilary hahn is definitely my favorite. heard her perform the sibelius - absolutely incredible. </p>
<p>yah i don't know about zigeunerweisen. in my state's all state orchestra difficulty rating chart, it's below wieniawski 2nd, sibelius, bruch 3rd movement, tchaik, brahms, a lot of other things. though i wouldn't know from experience. </p>
<p>wow this is getting really long, but i LOVE ranting with musicians - i get so many weird looks when i start talking about music at my school. yay violin</p>
<p>Wazzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. :D I'm currently working on Czardas, Paganini's 24th Caprice, and Bach's Double Concerto in D.</p>
<p>I'm so ridiculously jealous of you guys right now. I won't be able to play the Sibelius for at least another year, but I can't wait.</p>
<p>Ah! I loved Zigeunerweisen.</p>
<p>I'm half-heartedly working on Mozart's Concerto No. 5 in A Major. It's going pretty slowly since I just haven't been practicing very much. Easy piece though. I don't have the drive to practice anymore -- school's sucked that out of me. I've done violin 5 years and going.</p>
<p>And I just started playing the Red Violin soundtrack on my ipod. Again.</p>
<p>replying to ivorykeys...no the sad thing is. my hands are actually smaller than average! but i can stretch them like crazy, which is pretty nasty. from my palms to middle finger, my hands are about as tall as a ti 30xa scientific calculator =X my other fingers are shorter than that too.</p>
<p>i really wish i could try something technically taxing, but thats not how my teacher plays the game ;). he'll only pick things that he knows you can perform in two months. i had to beg him to let me play sibelius. drama drama. i injured myself freshman year playing paganini 5th caprice (i think it was cause, i jumped from a 30minute practice time to like a 2-3 hr practice time). but needless to say he never let me play that again.</p>
<p>i think the ziegeunerweisen is really easy to impress...since i made first violin in my symphony on my first try auditioning for it, and hardly anyone gets first upon entrance. but really i think the most difficult part about it was not breaking the stupid vibrato during the slow parts. and of course being loud enough for a concert hall. i thought i was loud, until in a hall my dad said he couldnt hear me at all. </p>
<p>oh oh oh! are anyones fingers too thin to play stable fifths? mine fit perfectly right in between the strings. so perfect that, if i dont force my fingfer to flatten, itll make a squeak sound. we tried everything, including me gaining weight. and it makes a lot of things really hard =(</p>
<p>i've been playing for over 13 years now..yes thats correct..not a typo..13 years..and i can say for a fact thta the suzuki books are good for progression..except with book 5 and 6 they r interchangable</p>
<p>Who here has played the Lalo Symphony Espagnole? I'm playing it in a competition next week... to all of you who have played the Mendelssohn - what concerto did you learn before you learned it? I'm trying to decide if I'm ready to learn it yet or not. I've been playing for eleven years, and I've played a few concertos, and I really REALLY want to learn the Mendelssohn...</p>
<p>Rhapsody in Green - you just finished the first movement of the Lalo and some solo Bach? That's exactly what I'm working on right now ( the Bach is the last movement of the Partita no. 3)</p>
<p>Ooh, that was a while ago. Since then I played the Wieniawski Polonaise in D and some more solo Bach. Right now I'm working on Sarasate Zigeunerweisen, which is a lot of fun.</p>
<p>I loved the Lalo, though. Especially because of the name. Lalo. It just sounds funny. If you're just finishing up the Symphonie Espagnole now, though, I don't think it would be unreasonable for you to play the Mendelssohn pretty soon. From what I've heard, the first movement is pretty similar to the first movement of the Lalo in difficulty, although maybe a little worse.</p>
<p>hm i think. in the order of pieces i played since 7th grade went something like. (i think its in order of difficulty too to be honest.)</p>
<p>lalo symphonie espagnole
barber violin concerto
havanaise saint saens
ziegeunerweisen
mendelssohn concerto
wieniawski concerto #2
sibelius violin concerto in D (present)</p>
<p>BUT! technically i think mendelssohn was the easiest of them all. its just musically so freaking demanding because its so perfect. hardly anyone can play it truly beautifully. technically i think you are more than ready.</p>
<p>Mendelssohn is perfect.</p>
<p>I like your username (musicalfeet) :D</p>
<p>I'm a violist (a.k.a. your worst nightmare) and I'm having trouble finding good solo music. I managed to find the Telemann Concerto in G, which I later found out was much too easy. Right now I mainly just play arranged and transposed music as well as the music my orchestra plays. Anybody got suggestions?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, just to give an idea of where I am musically, I can pretty much play the entire viola part of the Planets Suite except the funky little section at the end of Jupiter.</p>
<p>Just to actually write something that deals with this thread, I'll list the music I'm working on.</p>
<p>Bacchanale (with orchestra) - Saint-Saens
Asturias from the Spanish Suite (arranged) - Albeniz
Adagio - misattributed to Tomaso Albinoni
As well as various other, mostly easy but some difficult, pieces with my orchestra</p>
<p>You guys depress me. You've all been playing since you were like, two. I feel like I suck (only been playing 4 years, no private lessons).</p>
<p>I'm working on Mendelssohn and Partita No. 3 by Bach right now and Tchaikovsky's 4th Symphony with my orchestra. ^_^</p>
<p>haha omg i played partita no. 3! i totally hated the preludio movement AHHH. i remember in 8th grade, i auditioned for the junior bach festival with it. and THE ONLY REASON they didnt take me was because on that one part with the fifths, i couldnt play without making a squeak noise (not even my fault! my fingers were WAY too thin to even be able to play it. i still cant), and they were all like " please watch that section!! ". yeah i was pretty bitter about it. at least i made it. 3 years later with sonata no 1 in g minor. ughhh. and i really dont think i played any better 3 years later with this piece than the other one. really.</p>
<p>Whoo, I feel the need to revive this thread. I’m interested in seeing the repertoire of fellow CCers</p>
<p>Ok, so I’m actually beginning a real repertoire, unlike in previous posts. Here are the pieces I’ve learned so far:
Bloch - Suite Hebraique, Unfinished Suite for Solo Viola
Glinka - Sonata in D minor
Hindemith - Trauermusik
Bruch - Romanze
Honegger - Sonata (except mvmt. 1)</p>
<p>I could probably play Bartok Concerto mvmt. 2 with a lot of practice, but it wouldn’t really be productive or helpful…</p>
<p>(Oh, and there are tons of works much harder than Zigeunerweisen. For example, basically anything written in the last 30 years, or almost anything written by Paganini…
Even the Penderecki Viola Concerto is quite a bit harder and it’s…a viola concerto!)</p>