<p>Now that RD is almost over, I wonder how UVA made its decisions. Know of individuals who had better class rank, better SAT scores, and better extracurriculars than those who got in that were rejected / waitlisted by UVA. It is not a question of legacy or sports either. Makes you exceedingly frustrated and wonder about fairness in the process when something like this happens. More so when neighbouring state top schools offer you admission and your home state school does not.
Dean J - you can say all that you want about considering all factors but it does not seem to make sense when students below you both in terms of class rank, SAT's and extracurriculars are offered admission and you are not.</p>
<p>Nice, a venting spot!</p>
<p>I got REJECTED.</p>
<p>Here's my stats:</p>
<p>SAT I: 780 V 750 M 730 W
SAT II: Math Lvl 1 730, U.S. Hist. 690</p>
<p>3 4's on AP Euro, AP Govt. and Politics, AP French Lang</p>
<p>Taking 4 more APs this year [at a school where to enroll in APs, you must file a rigorous application, get recommendations from teachers, and take a selective qualifier test]</p>
<p>300+ community service hours, National Merit Commended, AP Scholar</p>
<p>Top 15% of my class GPA-wise at Millburn High School, once rated the 2nd best public high school in the country by Washington Post Education Reporter Jay Greene. </p>
<p>My school is still often rated the best public high school in NJ.</p>
<p>I got into Carnegie Mellon, NYU ($7500 per year scholarship), Lehigh ($10,000 per year scholarship + Eckhardt Scholars Prog.), University of Michigan-Ann Arbor Honors Program, Fordham ($22,000 per year), Colgate, Boston College, and Rutgers ($5000 per year scholarship).</p>
<p>Waitlisted at JHU, Tufts, and Amherst.</p>
<p>wow, but ur stats are really good....how were ur essays?</p>
<p>Don't be disheartened; remember that admissions is really an arbitrary process, one which you have no control over. Many factors go into deciding admission of a student and the criteria is very much all over the place.</p>
<p>Wow fusiondog, if you couldn't get in with those stats, I am frightened of how it might be for me when I apply next year.</p>
<p>fusiondogg, what is your SPECIFIC GPA? You didn't provide in any of your posts.</p>
<p>Sigma,</p>
<p>Specific GPA doesn't really matter. GPAs are only important in context to your specific high school. Is he any smarter if he is in the top 15% with a 4.8W vs. a 3.8W?</p>
<p>Fusion,</p>
<p>That sucks bro. But hey...not everyone gets to grow up in Short Hills, can ya? Just think of it that way!</p>
<p>Jags proves a point. Top 15% isn't impressive for OOS. Plenty applied that were in top 5-10%, i'm sure. Yes, everything else is great, but lets face it, OOS produces excellent, top-notch, #1 students.</p>
<p>shoebox,</p>
<p>i wasn't making the point that top 15% wasn't impressive. I was making the point that GPA only matters in context to school. Quite frankly, people live in Millburn or Short Hills (the 2 towns that people) live there and don't have to pay for a private high school. They psuedo attend one via their property taxes. It legitimately sucks that fusion didn't get in--he had great scores.</p>
<p>Waitlisted...</p>
<p>SAT: 690M, 700W, 650V
SATII: 720 (Math I, Math II, Chemistry)</p>
<p>Class rank: top 5%
GPA: 3.7</p>
<p>140 hours community service</p>
<p>Out of State</p>
<p>Jags - I was merely agreeing with your point that rank matters more than GPA. I was simply extending it a bit. Top 15% is impressive. But if you look at any OOS chance thread, its always "be in the top 5-10%", which is somewhat true.<br>
Also, the private school part shouldn't matter too much, other than it will have great classes and such. I know plenty of people who weasled their way through private schools while others worked their butts off in publics. Maybe it isnt true across the board, but I don't think adcoms said "ooh! Top private school! auto-accept!"</p>
<p>I asked for GPA cause I didn't think top 15% was that high. Of course its possible that everyone in his school does very well and being in the top 15% still means a very high gpa. Anywho, most people, even in state I believe, are in the top 10%.</p>
<p>shoebox,</p>
<p>of course no on says "top private school auto-accept" - however, UVA--which will take a student in the top 75% at TJ, is obviously making exceptions for certain schools :-/. I'm not saying fusion should have gotten in, I'm just saying it sucks that he didnt...he did very well in school and on his SATs.</p>
<p>i got waitlisted...OOS</p>
<p>GPA- UW-4.0 W-4.3
Rank- #1
ACT-30
SAT-2230
in the IB program, all HL classes
a lot of leadership and extra curriculars, sports, school clubs, volunteer programs (200 hours+) that ive been in all 4 years of high school
great recommendations and IMO really good essays</p>
<p>i dont know what went wrong...im really dissapointed...</p>
<p>I am really sorry to hear that, theflash, since I am also an IB student. But just to note..it is not possible to take all HL class!</p>
<p>It really makes you wonder how those in state people from western VA got in with 500s on SAT sections. I know plenty of people like this. At UVA, it goes OOS NoVa RoVa (rest of virginia... google that if you didn't recognize it) in terms of actual preparedness for UVA. Seriously. This is why you have people failing astr121 (actually, our last test average was a D, and this is the class where the professor spent 20 minutes explaining the axes of an ellipse) when any of these ppl waitlisted or rejected would be acing it. It is why UVA is never going to be a top 10 school. But what can you do. You need the $ from the state... And it IS a state school. Admissions are getting harder everywhere. Hopefully you will end up at a place where you are happy and that is all you can hope for.</p>
<p>don't worry theflash, i got waitlisted too and i know that it's probably because of the quota thing that they have going on, was UVA ur first choice?</p>
<p>For those who got waitlisted...how many of u r gonna stay on the list??</p>
<p>BGjeez - sorry i meant to say that i am taking all the HL classes offered (bio, math, history, english) spanish and physics are SL but thats the highest that they are offered at
Haberdashery - sorry to hear you were waitlisted too, and yeah UVA was my first choice but i still have hope that i might be admitted, good luck to the rest of the fellow waitlisters! have hope!</p>
<p>sorry for you guys, I got in last year by stroke of luck (well, actually I have a particular state-distinction in politics, so not really) with 2010 SAT, so I am sorry.....maybe you'll get into ivies, I got all rejections from them (9 including duke g-town) no regrets, actually happy to be at uva then any other place in the country. I promise no one this year (with exception of athletes and future presidents) will get in with low stats like mine.</p>