Waitlisted & the Statistical Chances of Getting In

richs73cas · May 25, 2005, 9:08pm

Michigan State University posts their Common Data Set: <a href="http://opbweb.msu.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://opbweb.msu.edu/</a>

Fall 2004
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list na
Number accepting a place on the waiting list na
Number of wait-listed students admitted na
"No Wait List Needed"
Total Class Size 7607
0 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2003
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 1524
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 561
Number of wait-listed students admitted 160
Total Class Size 7122
2.2 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2002
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 2800
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 950
Number of wait-listed students admitted 275
Total Class Size 6886
4 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2001
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 3200
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 1000
Number of wait-listed students admitted 250
Total Class Size 6669
3.7 % of Class came from the wait list.

Good Luck

richs73cas · May 25, 2005, 9:49pm

Smith College Posts their Common Data Set <a href="http://www.smith.edu/ir/cds.php%5B/url%5D">http://www.smith.edu/ir/cds.php</a>

Fall 2004
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 255
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 129
Number of wait-listed students admitted 0
Total Class Size 696
0 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2003
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 311
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 133
Number of wait-listed students admitted 42
Total Class Size 635
6.6 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2002
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 280
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 174
Number of wait-listed students admitted 0
Total Class Size 679
0 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2001
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 481
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 331
Number of wait-listed students admitted 0
Total Class Size 627
0 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2000 <a href="http://www.smith.edu/ir/smithcds00-01.html#section-c%5B/url%5D">http://www.smith.edu/ir/smithcds00-01.html#section-c</a>
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 265
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 175
Number of wait-listed students admitted 0
Total Class Size 660
0 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 1999
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 482
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 200
Number of wait-listed students admitted 99
Number of wait-listed students enrolled 67
Total Class Size 667
10 % of Class came from the wait list.

richs73cas · June 1, 2005, 11:58pm

The University of Virginia posts their Common Data Sets <a href="http://www.web.virginia.edu/IAAS/data_catalog/institutional/cds/current/admissions.htm#current%5B/url%5D">http://www.web.virginia.edu/IAAS/data_catalog/institutional/cds/current/admissions.htm#current</a>

Fall 2004
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 3017
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 1809
Number of wait-listed students admitted 37
Total Class Size 3096
1.2 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2003
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 2560
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 1535
Number of wait-listed students admitted 63
Total Class Size 3101
2.0 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2002
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 2029
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 1157
Number of wait-listed students admitted 150
Total Class Size 2999
5.0 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2001
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 2215
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 1301
Number of wait-listed students admitted 82
Total Class Size 2980
2.8 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2000 
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 2082
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 1201
Number of wait-listed students admitted 108
Total Class Size 2927
3.7 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 1999
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 2815
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 1701
Number of wait-listed students admitted 74
Total Class Size 2924
2.5 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 1998
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 2095
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 1229
Number of wait-listed students admitted 25
Total Class Size 2907
0.85 % of Class came from the wait list.

Looks like they use the wait list to reach their target class size.

Good Luck

richs73cas · June 10, 2005, 2:28pm

Emory University - Common Data Set Link <a href="http://www.emory.edu/PROVOST/IPR/ipr_facts.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.emory.edu/PROVOST/IPR/ipr_facts.htm</a>

Fall 2003
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 500
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 500
Number of wait-listed students admitted 70
Total Class Size 1296
5.4 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2002
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 500
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 400
Number of wait-listed students admitted 70
Total Class Size 1337
5.2 % of Class came from the wait list.

Link to class Profile of Class that entered Fall 2004 <a href="http://www.emory.edu/ADMISSIONS/about/class-profile.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.emory.edu/ADMISSIONS/about/class-profile.htm</a>

richs73cas · June 11, 2005, 3:12pm

Vanderbilt University - Link to Common Data Sets - <a href="http://virg.vanderbilt.edu/virg/option1/virg1_flash.htm%5B/url%5D">http://virg.vanderbilt.edu/virg/option1/virg1_flash.htm</a>

Fall 2004
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 1195
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 500
Number of wait-listed students admitted 19
Total Class Size 1602
1.2 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2003
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 1130
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 443
Number of wait-listed students admitted 32
Total Class Size 1545
2.1 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2002
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 1107
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 529
Number of wait-listed students admitted 7
Total Class Size 1579
0.4 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2001
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 1201
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 526
Number of wait-listed students admitted 19
Total Class Size 1557
1.2 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2000
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 1008
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 537
Number of wait-listed students admitted 3
Total Class Size 1643
0.2 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 1999
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 794
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 378
Number of wait-listed students admitted 55
Total Class Size 1635
3.4 % of Class came from the wait list.

richs73cas · June 12, 2005, 12:09pm

Washington and Lee University - Link to Common Data Set - <a href="http://ir.wlu.edu/cds/cds2004.htm%5B/url%5D">http://ir.wlu.edu/cds/cds2004.htm</a>

Fall 2004
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 709
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 299
Number of wait-listed students admitted 25
Total Class Size 460
5.4 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2003
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 625
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 250
Number of wait-listed students admitted 33
Total Class Size 453
7.3 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2002
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 656
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 268
Number of wait-listed students admitted 32
Total Class Size 457
7.0 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2001
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 601
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 239
Number of wait-listed students admitted 14
Total Class Size 488
2.9 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2000
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 618
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 204
Number of wait-listed students admitted 38
Total Class Size 451
8.4 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 1999
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 618
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 204
Number of wait-listed students admitted 40
Total Class Size 467
8.6 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 1998
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list NA
Number accepting a place on the waiting list NA
Number of wait-listed students admitted NA
Total Class Size 447
?? % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 1997
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 750
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 304
Number of wait-listed students admitted 50
Total Class Size 454
11.0 % of Class came from the wait list.

lowermorelandmom · June 12, 2005, 12:24pm

Whats your feeling on the waitlists this year? My D was waitlisted at 5 schools. and found out from 4 that either they didnt take anyone or only a handfull. The last one said they ony anticipate a few openings, and that after everyone goes through orientation. Also many of her friends (all females) were waitlisted at their top choices, and noone seemed to have got in anywhere from a waitlist. In her school I only heard of one girl who got off of a waitlist. It seems last yr, many more people seemed to be getting off of waitlists. It doesnt seem fair to waitlist so many kids, when there really are no openings.

richs73cas · June 12, 2005, 1:09pm

lowermorelandmom -

The Colleges are just using the Wait Lists to "Top Off" their Classes.

If they get enough students from the Initial round of Acceptances, they can't go to the wait lists. (Due to Limits on Dorm Space and Class Size.)

This article from Bowdoin College indicates that they received 483 students from their May 1st decisions. Since Bowdoin's target class size was 480, they are not likely to make much use of the waitlist, if they go to it at all.
<a href="http://www.bowdoin.edu/news/archives/1bowdoincampus/002020.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.bowdoin.edu/news/archives/1bowdoincampus/002020.shtml</a>

As you point out, a really large number of applicants are wait listed, relative to the number that may get accepted off the wait list.

For an applicant the only reasonable thing to do is get excited about the college you did get accepted to and submitted your deposit to.

If a Wait List acceptance comes thru later it should be greeted as a welcome suprise, not something you are counting on.

For students starting the admissions process, be sure that you have realistic "Safety" and "Match" schools amoung of your list of Schools you apply to.
Those applications require and deserve as much effort as you put into your "Reach" Applications. The Safety and Match Schools should be chosen very carefully, since you very well may end up attending one of them.

My 2nd S, didn't, IMO, put enough effort into his Match applications or his contact with the Colleges to demonstrate his interest. The result 4 waitlists and No admission offers off the wait list. (But he didn't do anything more than send back the card to stay on the wait list.)

He will be entering has Senior year at a LAC in the Fall, that our HS GC had suggested he apply to. That College was looking to get more students from our area and the AdCom liked one of his EC's; but even then she called him to find out why he hadn't visited the campus and would he really come if admitted. He's happy there and doing well. We think it may have been the best place for him after all, but we could have just as easily not been that lucky.

adamo_e22 · June 12, 2005, 1:38pm

okay, so i havent really followed this thread, but i was placed on five waitlists and got accepted to zero of them... so statistical chances of getting in are well... even lower than i thought. blagh.

richs73cas · June 16, 2005, 7:41pm

An article in today's Wall Street Journal (subscription required): <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB111888042358561000,00.html?mod=at%5Fleisure%5Fmain%5Feditors%5Fpicks%5Fdays%5Fonly%5B/url%5D">http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB111888042358561000,00.html?mod=at%5Fleisure%5Fmain%5Feditors%5Fpicks%5Fdays%5Fonly</a>

[quote]
Many admissions officers say they regret having to disappoint so many applicants. One reason top schools said they expanded their wait lists this year was that the pool of applicants was so highly qualified. The University of Pennsylvania offered about 1,200 students a spot on its list compared with 1,100 last year. Johns Hopkins had increased its offers by 500 students, to 2,000. Dartmouth also offered 100 more students a spot on its list than the year before. "These are all students you'd love to be able to accommodate," says Karl Furstenberg, admissions dean at Dartmouth, which admitted only 22 wait-listed students, compared with 31 last year.

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A table indicated the number of students admitted of the wait list for the Fall

Cornell 158 this year, 171 last year
Dartmouth 22 this year, 31 last year
Duke 22 this year, 86 last year
Harvard 20 this year, 81 last year
Johns Hopkins 0 this year, 150 last year
Princeton 0 this year, 99 last year
U of Chicago 34 this year, 150 last year
U of Pennsylvania 10 this year, 30 this year
Yale 0 this year, 8 last year

proud2bherdad · June 20, 2005, 2:03pm

Good news for next year's wait list.
Selective schools expected to offer
admissions to more students from
next years wait list. The bad news is
that the two phrases.... next year &
wait list are synonymous with 2nd best.

The Wall St. Journal article can be viewed at
<a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05167/522674.stm%5B/url%5D">http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05167/522674.stm</a>

katewoods · April 17, 2006, 1:53pm

Carleton, Colby, Franklin & Marshall please........ thanks!

emadz89 · April 17, 2006, 2:16pm

University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

spencer · April 17, 2006, 4:08pm

San Diego State????

danielkwak · April 17, 2006, 4:23pm

harvard 10 characters

danielkwak · April 17, 2006, 4:27pm

UC Berkley and UC Los Angeles

danielkwak · April 17, 2006, 4:30pm

If you applied with an ED and you were waitlisted... what happens?

richs73cas · April 17, 2006, 7:06pm

Link to Carleton College Common Data Sets <a href="http://apps.carleton.edu/campus/ira/CDS1/%5B/url%5D">http://apps.carleton.edu/campus/ira/CDS1/</a>

Fall 2005
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 1430
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 310
Number of wait-listed students admitted 0
Total Class Size 542
0 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2004
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 273
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 273
Number of wait-listed students admitted 8
Total Class Size 487
1.6 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2003
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 272
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 272
Number of wait-listed students admitted 8
Total Class Size 488
1.6 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2002
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 1494
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 394
Number of wait-listed students admitted 10
Total Class Size 502
2 % of Class came from the wait list.

Fall 2001
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 1497
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 1397
Number of wait-listed students admitted 0
Total Class Size 516
0 % of Class came from the wait list.

IsleBoy · April 17, 2006, 7:25pm

I'll bite...Union College in Schenectady, NY?

TIA

IB

richs73cas · April 17, 2006, 7:25pm

They have the CDS posted for 2005 <a href="http://www.dmi.uiuc.edu/stuenr/misc/CDS2005_2006.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.dmi.uiuc.edu/stuenr/misc/CDS2005_2006.pdf</a>

Fall 2005
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 503
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 319
Number of wait-listed students admitted 0
Total Class Size 7570
0 % of Class came from the wait list.

and the CDS for 2004 <a href="http://www.dmi.uiuc.edu/stuenr/cds_200405_final.xls%5B/url%5D">www.dmi.uiuc.edu/stuenr/cds_200405_final.xls</a>
Fall 2004
Number of qualified applicants placed on waiting list 1009
Number accepting a place on the waiting list 596
Number of wait-listed students admitted 162
Total Class Size 7232
2.2 % of Class came from the wait list.

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