Wharton, Stern, Brown, Dartmouth, Chicago, Northwestern, Cornell, Princeton, MIT

Transfer Students
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<p>I currently go to Michigan Engineering. Would be great if you guys could chance me for transfer to Wharton, Stern, Brown, Dartmouth, Chicago, Northwestern, Cornell, Princeton, MIT :</p>

<p>Qualifications:
Junior – Industrial Engineering Major, Econ Minor
3.7 cum gpa, 3.6 major
1 strong recommendation, 1 weak recommendation (some schools require 1, some schools require 2)
1 W on transcript
1500s/2300s SATs
3.2 elite high school gpa
Bulge Bracket (Not GS,MS) front office (not best group) internship as sophomore
Going to repeat junior year.
Cornell- Legacy</p>

<p>Schools applying to
Wharton (wow…way to take the long path), Stern- obviously business
Dartmouth, Chicago, Brown – Econ
Northwestern, Princeton, MIT, Cornell-Engineering
Would be great if anyone could chance me.</p>

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<p>Princeton doesn’t accept transfers.</p>

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<p>oh thanks for letting me know.
Also do schools take grade deflation in engineering into account?
For instance, Michigan engineering’s summa cum laude is 3.75, which is by definition top 5%.
So a 3.7 is well into a top 10% range. But obviously, a 3.7 is not that great of a gpa in say a liberal arts major.</p>

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<p>I don’t know the credentials required for it, but Cornell engineering is I believe the second or (tied for second with hotel) most selective school on campus.</p>

<p>Mm…3.7 is good and competitive, but for Engineering there, I’m not entirely certain. I can check with my buddy who got in last fall, I’ll ask him for his stats.</p>

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<p>your list is really top heavy. if you’re desparate to get out, pick 2 or 3 reaches and a bunch of safeties. also won’t it be difficult getting into a business program if all of your courses are engineering related?</p>

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<p>bearcats, I assume you’re serious about this? What finally prompted this, I thought you said you were feeling better after the summer internship.</p>

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<p>^^The students at Michigan aren’t up to his high standards and there are no world class restaurants in Ann Arbor.</p>

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<p>i’d say you are not quite riding the fence. you’re almost riding it; nevertheless, try mate.</p>

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<p>You’re clearly bright enough for top programs/Ivies given your stellar SATs, but there are inconsistencies (large ones at that) in your application that will hurt you.</p>

<p>Firstly, your W is a red flag. In what class did you earn it and when? If early on in your college career (i.e. freshman year), it can be chalked up to the freshman transition, but otherwise it will be difficult (at best) to mitigate.</p>

<p>Secondly, your high school transcript is colossally incommensurate with your SAT scores. Admittedly, it is subordinate in weight to your college transcript, it nonetheless presents a problem and gives you the “smart, but lazy” stigma that adcoms typically reject. I’m thinking your upward trend should help, but again, a 3.2, even from Exeter, doesn’t cut it for the Ivies.</p>

<p>Thirdly, your weak recommendation may very well derail your application. Try to find someone else at all costs and don’t send his/hers if you don’t have to!</p>

<p>You’re on the fence, I think, so write killer essays and have a great resume/recommendations/soft factors and things may workout. With your legacy status at Cornell and outstanding GPA at UM, you’ll likely be successful at Cornell and Northwestern, but the others are up in the air, IMHO. </p>

<p>And yes, adcoms are well aware of grade deflation in the sciences.</p>

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<p>He’s from Hotchkiss. The 3.2 actually cuts it, lol.</p>

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<p>@Water</p>

<p>When it comes to transferring, Hotel admin has a 50+% acceptance rate whereas engineering has ~19%. They are not in the same league at all.</p>

<p>[Transfer</a> Student Bias | The Cornell Daily Sun](<a href=“http://cornellsun.com/node/26216]Transfer”>http://cornellsun.com/node/26216)</p>

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<p>I just assumed it was competitive considering their standards. But that really doesn’t have anything to do with the OP anyway.</p>

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<p>Wow. I’m pretty shocked that transfers are treated this way at Cornell, so poorly that it warranted writing an article…</p>

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<p>One, or even two, W doesn’t really matter (I had several when I applied to transfer, and I’m still standing). It’s a string that worries an admissions officer.</p>

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<p>Yes. A 3.2 is unimpressive, even if earned from Exeter. An admissions officer won’t fall head over heels for it.</p>

<p>But that college GPA is great, from a great program, and from a great school. It should put you in the running for a lot of places.</p>

<p>I will say, though, that you’re not getting into MIT.</p>

<p>You might also want to consider submitting an addendum, indicating your approximate class rank (and you should support this with professional documentation).</p>

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<p>wayward_trojan, the SAT is not an accurate measure of how one will perform in college. if there was any correlation between SAT scores and GPA he’d have a 3.9-4.0. </p>

<p>and he’s clearly erased any thoughts of this “smart, but lazy stigma”, with a strong college GPA. ya know… HS doesn’t stick with you for the rest of your life <.<</p>

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<p>Yes… but it does stay with you when you’re applying after one year of college, and even after two, though in differing degrees.</p>

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<p>Think of the SAT as “the great equalizer.” When an applicant is carrying a great GPA from an unknown school, and thus their GPA is an unknown quantity, the SAT helps demonstrate that the applicant can handle the work at the school to which she’s applying. </p>

<p>Doubts regarding the actual correlation between SAT performance and college success are best for another thread.</p>