<p>Monstor344, You should definitely send coaches at schools you are interested in your excellent SAT scores as soon as you are able. For an Ivy/Stanford/MIT, etc. your scores really do matter and these will help you significantly and make you that much more of an attractive recruit. Right away, these coaches will know they will have no problem walking you through admissions which is probably one of their biggest battles. As long as you can give the team what it needs, you should be all set - Good Luck!!!</p>
<p>Just thought I’d share my stats since I have some first-hand experience in the process. I got a likely letter from Dartmouth for track and field, and I have a 3.3 UW (school doesn’t rank), 1360/1960 SAT, moderately challenging curriculum (4 APs). The only other ivy I was recruited at was Brown.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
<p>Edit: About Stanford…it seems they definitely aren’t more lenient than Dartmouth or any other ivies. Their coach told me:</p>
<p>“You’re a solid student but I’m afraid it’s not quite strong enough. I really appreciate your interest in our program and I wish we could make something happen. However, Stanford’s admission rate is 7.5% and we denied 5,000 students with perfect grades and SAT/ACT scores last year.”</p>
<p>Which events do you run?</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure there are fewer than 1,000 perfect scorers on either the SAT or ACT combined. And many of them, I’m also sure, do not have perfect grades. I don’t want to come off as harsh, but maybe the coach talked about the academics to avoid saying that you weren’t athletically strong enough for the team?</p>
<p>^^^Bingo. Not to be a jerk, but if you were a 1:51 half miler or could put the shot 62’, Mr. Floreal would be very accommodating, indeed.</p>
<p>I know Stanford definitely allows lower stats for the women’s gymnastics team.</p>
<p>M:</p>
<p>Congrats on your great scores and academics.</p>
<p>This may fly against the grain, but you’re over the academic bar for a baseball admit at any school. There is nothing more needed to be done at that end.</p>
<p>No coach cares how much over the academic bar you are – once you’re over, you’re over. The coach cares about your baseball – current performance and projectability (with pitchers it seems that one thing trumps everything else MPH).</p>
<p>If you were my S, I’d have you taking your obvious ability to focus on important academic stuff and turn it to baseball. As a LHP, to become that “must” recruit, you need to sit at 87, with the occasional burst to 89 -90 (yes, they recruit LHP’s who sit at 84; but I am talking about the “must” recruit; the recruit who is courted by 6 Ivies). For Stanford, it’s a few MPH faster along with a larger body type (look at their roster stats) [more physically mature].</p>
<p>To reach that level, it takes a focused approach of conditioning, lessons, diet, etc. No shortcuts, no cramming. It is a real process that takes many months (years are even better). </p>
<p>Your HS season is really not important to a certain extent it is a type of spring training and you should approach the next eight months with the intent to peak mid-June and retain that peak all the way through the end of the summer. In very concrete terms do not let your HS coach overuse you during the season a nagging injury (or tired arm caused by overuse) from the HS season may diminish your fastball at the show cases. No one cares if you struck out 200 during your HS season; the 10 batters you face in the showcase are far more important.</p>
<p>If you make it to sitting 87+, you will be turning down official visits (you are limited to 5 D1 official visits) and you will be driving the recruiting bus.</p>
<p>But, the rest of your recruiting journey will be driven by baseball; not academics. So if you havent already changed your focus, take your drive and energy and make yourself the best LHP you can be with the remaining time.</p>
<p>You’re definitely right. With my current grades, I may very well would have needed to be better athletically. The same goes the other way…maybe if my grades were better, my athletic stats would have been good enough. Of course, there are lots of other factors like the needs of the team this year.</p>
<p>For the record, I’m a near-200 ft. javelin thrower, and I spoke with their throws coach, not head coach Floreal.</p>
<p>Monstor344,</p>
<p>Totally 100% agree with Stemit’s assessment of the situation. You mentioned you’re already throwing 85mph. I’m not sure if you “touched” 85 or you consistently throw that speed. There is a difference, and you may want to find out which it was at the Head First camp you attended. If you ask, they will tell you as they have a Head First guy behind the backstop monitoring every pitchers speed. Fair or not, coaches look at radar guns and make recruiting decisions. Your recruiting position can be effected by those few MPHs. You’ve got the academics covered, and that is great. Good luck with the process, it is an adventure.</p>
<p>I just returned from a national soccer tournament where coaches from Ivy to Community College level were looking at soccer players.<br>
I agree that Williams and Amherst probably have higher standards for their recruits, because athletes are a larger percentage of their total population than any of the Ivies.
The Ivies have to have the median player be within one standard deviation of the school. Therefore, the top recruits can be B+ students with 1800/2400 SATs, becuase they will be offset with lower recruits with A- grades and 2100/2400 SATs. I have heard of exceptional players who are recruited who are not exceptional students. However they need to be capable of performing the work and the lower players must meet the standards for the school.</p>
<p>My Junior D contacted schools that are 20-40 rank and was unwilling to contact any NESCAC or Ivy schools. She’ll have to be close to the 50% range to get accepted. I’m also unwilling for her to contact schools where she will be below average, since she wants to study engineering.</p>
<p>For soccer, a coach may look at 80 athletes in one tournament, but have to narrow it down to those that make the cut athletically and academically, just to end up with 5-7 recruits a year.</p>
<p>Jbudzi, it’s not like getting a likely from Dartmouth is chopped liver, congrats!</p>
<p>thanks! :)</p>
<p>any parents know if the 3.9-4.0 student (uw) (very rigorous-honors, APs etc) needs to be above 700 each SAT section, or are in the 600s ok???</p>
<p>Our student takes the SAT for the first time in 2 weeks… a few coaches have asked for a transcript and SATs asap</p>
<p>fogfog, you’ll get a lot of different answers for this one. Several Ivy coaches 2 years ago said anything over 2000 was perfectly fine for an athlete they really want on the team. I’ve known athletes who got scores between 2000 and 2100 who have offered to retake the SAT to shoot for a higher number, and had the coach tell them “don’t bother.”</p>
<p>Maybe it epends on the sport, but all of the athletes we know have been told 1800 or better. My son’s sport is soccer and his guidance counselors have told him that as well. One of his club teammates will be going to Dartmouth next year - SAT 1830; gpa 3.4 (public school).</p>
<p>thanks
we are hoping our student is squarelyu in the mid 700s…
but until they go and we see scores–there is no way to know–and given the body of each test varies–it can be a good day or a bad day…</p>
<p>our student has the curriculum, and the character, long term vol ECs etc, varsity sport, Eagle Scout etc etc…the SATs are the newer unknown piece…
and since its early yet–too hard to know what level of interest this is–except that they want a Jr yr transcript faxed asap and SATs…thats all we know…</p>
<p>I’m sure there are plenty of Ivy athletes with less than 2000’s. But since it’s Jan of his junior year, and it sounds like he’s got the ability, this would be a great time to post a 2000 plus and maybe be done with test taking 
Best wishes.</p>
<p>Fogfog - We are sort of the same situation. My D, a junior, is appearing to be very recruitable at this point, with almost daily contact from ivies and other elite D1 schools. One ivy asked her to take the SAT this past autumn to determine whether they could continue to court her, so to speak. D’s SAT score was between 2,000 - 2,1000 (no review prior to taking test). D sent this score to all colleges she is communicating with and received all sorts of congratulations from the various coaches - we had to laugh as we know these scores are a good bit below what would be expected from a non-athlete. D will take the SAT again in May. Now, all schools want her transcript this January (like your student, a transcript with the first semester junior year on it), and all coaches do know that she plans to retake the SAT, and will be taking an SAT prep class this winter. She is a good student, but it will be very interesting to see any and all coach reactions once they read her transcript. No one seemed particularly interested that she qualified for National Merit Scholar program with her PSATs (guess that does nothing for basic statistics).
Fogfog, Good luck - your athlete will be just fine with the SATs, - would be nice to break 700s though so that SAT doesn’t need to be taken again…!</p>
<p>It really does depend on the sport and how good the athlete is. My son’s friend has verballed to Brown (in October of his junior year), before even taking his PSAT’s. He probably took PSAT’s as a sophomore (most sophomores at my son’s school do) and they can get a good idea from that.</p>
<p>Ive followed this board for a little, your son goes to NMH right? I know a kid that verballed to brown on the bball team. Your probably talking about him. Getting in for mens basketball is probably easier than some other less watched sport.</p>
<p>Could some of you take a look at my post and see if you could help me out :P</p>