<ol>
<li>Intelligence</li>
<li>Open-mindedness</li>
<li>Composure</li>
<li>Wit</li>
<li>Easy to talk to</li>
</ol>
<p>Hmmm. I wouldn't list "looks" necessarily so much as "visual X-factor." For example, I'm strongly attracted to a guy despite the fact that he's very skinny and has a very long neck. To me he has a great smile and great eyes, but that's a personal bias and I don't think the majority of girls would say he's good-looking. </p>
<p>But I digress. On to the list:</p>
<ol>
<li>smarts. an absolute must.</li>
<li>personality. someone i "click" with, whatever that means.</li>
<li>"visual X-factor"/looks.</li>
</ol>
<p>Oh yeah, he doesn't need to be a complete genius, but being smart is so cool. I've seen a few guys my age who still can't read fluently, and it's such a turn off.</p>
<p>weirdoone: That's a good point. The guy I like isn't hot by most people's standards, but I think he's attractive. I think it's a mixture of actual features (face, body type) and demeanor/attitude that determines whether you're attracted to someone, and that varies from person to person. For example, I'm not attracted to arrogant guys, no matter how good-looking they are. The attitude is just such a turn-off. On the other hand, the right attitude can make an otherwise average-looking guy insanely attractive.</p>
<p>I'm gonna have to go back to what runningncircles1. I personally believe that I am a nice guy, yes I am speaking for myself so why believe that I am telling the truth. Nice guys, at least in high school, don't get the girls. They don't get the short end of the stick b/c if you like a girl then there is no short end of the stick, unless it is your own, lol. But I can give a better example that isn't me. I know a few guys who are really nice and genuine but they never get any girls, not the ones the like, nobody, it's sad. I for one haven't had a gf but people tell me I am a nice person all the time, how sweet. But hopefully that will change cause I know a girl who is a freshman in college and we might be going out soon. My first gf, how exciting.</p>
<p>I personally believe I'm a nice girl, and hey, I don't get dates either. Should we all just agree that nice people get shafted, generally?</p>
<p>Yep, but I think things do begin to change in college. When girls stop being stuck up **<strong><em>es, and guys stop being ass mongering dicks. I personally like a girl who is nice to begin with and didn't have to mature and realize, oh yeah if I am a whore then I won't get marriend or some *</em></strong> like that, same goes for the guys. Wait till college, things will change, long term relationships, etc.</p>
<p>Of course they do. Be somewhat of an ******* if you want the girl. It works.</p>
<ol>
<li>sense of humor</li>
<li>not hideous</li>
</ol>
<p>possibly the only prerequisites</p>
<p>But it shouldn't; people should be nice. I haven't gotten in a relationship b/c of it, but I don't care. If people can't appreciate it when you are a genuinely nice person, which is most people. Then they can go **** themselves.</p>
<p>I used to think like that.
It's just like the song "Nice Guys Finish Last." You can be nice after you get the girl.</p>
<p>The song? Hahaha, the phrase came long before the song. But no, you are wrong, a person shouldn't have to be an a-hole to get a girl and then be nice. Nice guys should get the girl being nice, or be mean and get girls who are really dumb and don't know any better. Yes most girls get with mean guys or w/e and they are pretty and not dumb. But if they won't be with a nice guy and only stick with an ******* then they are stupid in my book.</p>
<p>Oh I know the phrase came before the song, I was just referring to it. And I never said that it should work that way, but thats the way it does.</p>
<p>Here's a question for the guys: If you were a senior, and a junior girl you sort-of-not-really knew through an EC--a nice, if somewhat shy, clever girl, not spectacularly attractive and pretty much the antithesis of curvy--asked you out, and you were hypothetically a nice, single, not-popular-but-not-socially-outcast guy, then... would that be really awkward?</p>
<p>I feel like such a loser for asking this, haha, but I'd like to evaluate the risks before potentially making a mockery of myself in a horrific way and ruining my, as of right now, friendly-if-not-intimate relationship with a great guy who also happens to be in charge of one of my main ECs.</p>
<p>Okay, I'm rambling. Honestly, though--is it an awful idea, or should I go ahead with it?</p>
<p>I can accept that too, but same as you I definitely don't have to like it. But if I do get a gf soon, then that will just show the whole world, mwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>thisyearsgirl, Just go for it. Living with the "What-if" question will be more painful than a few minutes of "embarrassment."</p>
<p>If you like him, ask him. So what if he says no, I get ya, of course you would feel bad. But if he is nice then it won't be really awkward between you two. I say go for it.</p>
<p>Aw, thanks guys. I guess I'm panicking because:</p>
<p>1) the last time I asked someone out he turned me down (he later turned out to be a class 1 a*hole, but I didn't know that at the time)
2) my school is tiny (250 students, 50 in my grade) -- word gets around
3) he's the editor of the newspaper, and I'm a reporter who is planning to run for editor when elections are held later this year
4) *because he's a nice guy, I don't want to risk putting him in a position where he has to find a way to "let me down gently"
5) I've a bad track record with guys. That is to say... I have no experience whatsoever. :eek:
6) my school is ridiculously segregated by grade, and juniors and seniors almost never interact outside of any ECs they have in common</p>
<p>On the other hand,
Living with the "What-if" question will be more painful than a few minutes of "embarrassment."
is so true. I should just stop being indecisive/a coward and get it done already, haha. :)</p>
<p>Straight up. I have tons of experience because I have an inability to follow my amazing advice.</p>
<p>Do it, so you have a small school. Believe me I have a very large school word gets around even more so maybe, and by the time it is all the way around at my school it is like a horrific game of pass it on. Just go for asking him. I have some exp with the what if question, it leaves with time, but just ask him if you want to do so.</p>