<p>Guys, I seem to need to collect more thoughts from anyone here who can help me further answer the thread title question.</p>
<p>If the schools, which you're applying to wants applicants to send in your SAT scores as a Sophomore and Junior level transfer, would it help the applicant out if he or she refuses to send in SAT scores or hurt the applicant?</p>
<p>Is it possible to get rejected to all top schools if let's say a 1600/2400 is not retaken for a Junior level?</p>
<p>I’m a little confused by your question. If the school requires you to send in your SAT scores and you refuse to do so, your application will be deemed incomplete and won’t be processed. Is that you’re asking?</p>
<p>Yes, if that is so, that leads to my second question on the poster. Can you answer that too?</p>
<p>Bumping it up.</p>
<p>Well if the school wants your SAT scores… regardless of whether you think it is necessary or not for a junior in college, then its obvious that you may face a rejection.</p>
<p>I have a question similar to this.</p>
<p>In the CommonApp, you have to self report your SAT Scores. Well, I’ll be applying as a JR to Northeastern, and my SAT scores were a bit lower than their requirements. As a JR though, they don’t care about your HS transcripts or SAT Scores. Can I just leave that section on the CommonApp blank, or does it matter?</p>
<p>So are you saying that even as a Junior in college, I’ll be possibly rejected regaurdless of what top schools I apply to if my SAT score does not go up without having it retaken?</p>
<p>Can anyone confirm this?</p>
<p>If you do not complete an application (including sending SAT scores if the school requests it) then you cannot be admitted. Simple as that. Omitting the scores will leave your app incomplete and they will not review it for admission.</p>
<p>Guys, I’m really concerned. Any help is appreciated. Feel free to comment!</p>
<p>It really can’t get any more simple…</p>
<p>If the SCHOOL wants it, then YES, it can and will hurt you if you DO NOT submit your scores that THEY want.</p>
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<p>That wasn’t the only question I asked. There was another one that was asked above nvilla’s comments.</p>
<p>Before you were telling me that if I have a 1600/2400, I’ll most likely get rejected if I do not retake and score higher even with 2 years of undergraduate work under my belt. Is this suppose to be true?</p>
<p>It doesn’t take an admissions officer to tell you that if you do not submit something that a school wants, you may face rejection. </p>
<p>NOWHERE in this thread does it say you will most likely get rejected if you don’t retake it. The entire point is that it doesn’t matter what the hell YOU think is sufficient enough to not submit or retake the SAT. </p>
<p>Honestly speaking, if you can’t understand this logic on your own, what makes you think you’ll be competent enough for top tier schools?</p>
<p>Have you realized the importance of the SAT score because it carries weight to whichever competitive college you try to get into, no matter if it’s freshmen or transfer.</p>
<p>Point is, a 1600 is definately not competitive for freshmen and I heard somewhere that it will also hurt me if I do not retake it as a Junior level. Schools have been telling me that they still take the SAT into a consideration.</p>
<p>So I came here to ask for some thoughts if anybody thinks it would benefit me if I retake that 1600 before submitting it on the application. I’m just afraid that since everything else looks good, I am unable to be offered admissions because of my atrocious SAT score. It’s not about retesting. It’s about the SCORE.</p>
<p>Hence, I am not the one trying to sound illogical here with opened light bulbs and less arrogancy.</p>
<p>Well, from what I know colleges tend to give less importance to your SAT scores and more to your college work if you are applying as a junior transfer. SATs after all are supposed to be indicative of your ability to handle academic work in college. If you show your college work to be competitive colleges would certainly consider that. This is just my two cents.</p>
<p>Seachai:</p>
<p>If you want to take them over, then take them over.</p>
<p>What everyone is saying - is that it will most definitely hurt you to refuse to report your scores. Period, point blank. That’s the answer to your original question.</p>
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<p>Yes, (some) college will look at your SAT scores. Whether or not a low score will keep you out is dependent on what schools you apply to. I understand that the importance of SAT scores have been drilled into an entire generations psyche, but for one moment consider that the hard numbers may not make or break you. This is especially the case with transfer students, its a very different game from freshman admissions. Test scores are predictors of how well a student will do in college. If you got a low score on a test that <em>thinks</em> you may have trouble in college - but then do quite well in college, do you really think the adcom will stress over the scores?</p>
<p>Short answer: they won’t so you shouldn’t either.</p>
<p>@Maelstrom16: Thank you so much for a more explicit answer. That answers my question. </p>
<p>@MojaveMocha: I remember discussing this with you before, but I still had uncleared points in my mind that I wanted to bring to the forum. This helps me alot now.</p>
<p>I appreciate it. The last two were meaningful and the ones above were also understandable in reporting scores as they mean incomplete.</p>
<p>OP, you should understand that the admissions counselors at many of the top universities (if those are the ones you are applying to) still weigh SATs for junior transfer applicants regardless of how they’re doing in college. If your SAT scores truly didn’t matter, you wouldn’t be asked to report it. No one really knows exactly how much weight it will hold, but as a regular traditional junior transfer applicant (if you were a non-trad applicant it might be different), if the school wants to still see your SAT score, then clearly it means SOMETHING to them. And so if you HAVE to show your score, a 1600/2400 isn’t too great, and while it’s ultimately up to you to decide to retake the SAT or not, you should consider prepping to take the SAT one more time to show that you’re better than a 1600. If you score above a 1600, it can only strengthen your application. In your position, I would probably re-take the test if I were required to report my score (also, under NO circumstances should you refuse to submit your scores if they are required).</p>
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You are welcome.
@fmhcbc
Well, if the OP has got excellent grades in college, wouldn’t his improvement count for something? Rather than take a test that is supposed to reflect one’s ability to handle college work, doesn’t it make more sense to show actual college work? I agree with you when you said that the colleges use the SAT scores for something, but I would say that the weight given would be definitely less, especially if the op shows improved grades.</p>
<p>^ Again, I don’t claim to know exactly how admissions counselors evaluate the SAT score in context to the entire application, and how much weight it has for junior transfer applicants. Even so, the fact that it’s required (given that the schools the OP applies to require it), would mean that there is indeed some weight given to the scores. I reckon that they might look at the scores as some form of equalizer to gauge the difficultly of the OP’s high school coursework (which while may not matter a tremendous amount for a junior applicant, still does indeed matter SOMEWHAT). In any case, because the OP has to report the scores either way, the 1600/2400 is simply not that competitive. I completely understand your point, but as I said, if it were me I would retake the test to at least show that I’m capable of scoring higher. It would be different if the OP were a non-trad applicant, or had a fairly decent, if not superb, SAT score from high school (maybe 1900+?). If either of the former two were true, I wouldn’t retake the test, but given that neither is true, I would try to bump that 1600/2400 up. Besides, what if in the end the deciding factor for a school choosing between the OP and another junior transfer applicant is the SAT score? I know I wouldn’t want to risk not being accepted because of my SAT score when it’s something I have in my control.</p>
<p>True that makes sense. But when I spoke to admissions officers they advised me to focus on my college grades and activities rather than retake my SAT. Then again you have a valid point. If it comes down to the SAT the OP would be at a serious disadvantage. It is up to the OP and the colleges that he is applying to.</p>