<p>I was looking up how much Cornell University costs since I made it in yesterday and I came across this:</p>
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<p>Why is it that New York residents have to pay less for the contract colleges, such as the ILR?</p>
<p>Also the contract colleges, such as the ILR, are still considered part of the Ivy League right?</p>
<p>You can think of the contracted colleges as part of the SUNY system while the rest are private and ivy. I don't think the contracted colleges are part of the ivy league "officially" (could be mistaken) but either way you graduate with a degree from Cornell; which most people recognize as ivy.</p>
<p>^^the first part is completely incorrect.</p>
<p>Cornell is an ivy league university. All seven colleges are part of Cornell. Therefore, everyone in every college is receiving an ivy league education.</p>
<p>Though some colleges are state contract colleges, they are not part of the SUNY system.</p>
<p>Cornell is the Ivy League school and contract schools are a part of Cornell....there is no separation of the contract colleges from the Ivy League...not sure where you heard that info.</p>
<p>NYS residents pay less because the contract schools receive money from the state...I wouldn't say we are greatly integrated in the SUNY system....but the colleges are in the SUNY viewbook (but you can't apply via the SUNY app) and we receive money from them to fund building projects and subsidize tuition for NYS residents and the SUNY Chancellor comes to visit every so often.....but that's the only extent to which we are "part" of SUNY...no more, no less.</p>
<p>all schools are private, and operated by Cornell University as a whole. And all are Ivy league</p>
<p>Thanks for the responses.</p>
<p>i browsed the SUNY campus list online and it listed four of the Cornell schools so i thought they were part of SUNY. sorry</p>
<p>yes...they are listed on the SUNY campus list...but we are not SUNY...it's confusing :-)</p>
<p>is the president of Cornell and chancellor of Cornell also the chancellor of the contract colleges or is that all up to SUNY? Like can Cornell University made changes to the schools without approving them through New York State?</p>
<p>the way i look at it:</p>
<p>private citizens give/gave money to cornell to create/fund/maintain colleges (endowed colleges). these private citizens' endowments are restricted (meaning, cornell is not free to do whatever they want to with the endowment).</p>
<p>similarly, with the contract colleges, the state of new york gives/gave money to create/fund/maintain colleges at cornell. like the restricted endowments, the state funds are also partially restricted. however, this does not make these colleges any more or less a part of cornell. so, the way i think of it is that the contract colleges are simply "government-endowed" colleges of cornell. </p>
<p>also...some more food for thought...remember that the college of agriculture and life sciences and the college of human ecology existed as endowed colleges before they were "given" contract status. do you really think that cornell would give up these colleges to the state in order obtain contract status?</p>
<p>It is my understanding that Cornell University is the only public & private college or university in the nation. Essentially it is a hybrid public/private school. The contract colleges are publicly funded while the private colleges are privately funded via the endowment, donations & tuition & fees.</p>
<p>"is the president of Cornell and chancellor of Cornell also the chancellor of the contract colleges or is that all up to SUNY? Like can..."</p>
<p>The president of cornell (there is not chancellor of Cornell) is the president of all of cornell. He is a member of the faculty of every school/college, and is the chief executive officer (if you will) of the university (all of its components and staff). courts have already ruled that faculty, staff, and students of the contract colleges are faculty, staff, and students of Cornell, not the State University of New York. </p>
<p>As for the other part of your question, Cornell University and its board of trustees are responsible for creating degrees to be awarded and qualifications for obtaining these degrees in all of its colleges (endowed and contract). Where the power of the University is limited, however, comes when setting tuition for the contract colleges and hiring new deans for the contract college. The legislation that established the contract colleges calls for the cornell board of trustees to obtain the advice (it does not say "consent") of SUNY when establishing/raising tuition for the contract colleges. (note: Cornell University in general was created by an act of the New York State Legislature). also, from what i've heard, Cornell has to get approval from the SUNY board of trustees when choosing deans of the contract colleges. but, if you were giving hundreds of millions of dollars a year to maintain colleges, wouldn't you want some accountability and the right to ensure capable persons are chosen to lead the colleges?</p>
<p>additionally, while i don't personally take any offense when people call the contract colleges "public," i believe that phrase, at least on legal grounds, is incorrect! Cornell University is a private research university, a status that extends to all of its holdings.</p>
<p>yea it's all private...otherwise maybe we would actually get off for national holidays!</p>