<p>Basically, i have a very big decision up ahead. I'm currently a pharmacy major in rutgers university (public college in NJ if you diddn't know), but i have a guaranteed transfer into CALS as some bio-related major (honestly forgot what it was...). Based on the difficulty of the first semester, the second one is gonna be cake, so maintaining the required gpa ain't gonna be a problem. If I go for the GT, I basically have to become a doctor, whereas if i stay at rutgers, i'll become a pharmacologist, with good job security and a decent amount of pay. It'll also be a lot easier, compared to medical school. I think i've pretty much made my mind being the lazy bum dat i am but i jus wanna know, what would you do?</p>
<p>It depends on how sure you are on doing a pharmacy career. If you're sure that's what you want to do, the pharmacy school will prepare you very well. But you want to do something else, then transfer.</p>
<p>It all depends on your preference…but it’s sometimes good to thrust yourself into a challenge, and judging from your area of study I know that it will be a challenging path! If your situation allows, I think taking up the GT offer will only enhance your career! Either way, best of luck!!!</p>
<p>I say stay. You're already a few years into college, you've made friends, and most importantly you are in a comfort zone. You've obviously done well enoguh at Rutgers to swtich to Cornell, but if you're happy where you are and what you are studying, enjoying the college experience is much more important then going to one for name.</p>
<p>i would give you some advice from howard roark, my all time favorite literary personage "if i chose a job i hated, i would basically be condemning myself to 60 years of torture. i dont build because i have to, i build because i love to." choose whichever job you want to be doing 20, 30, 60 years from now. and go read the fountainhead :)</p>
<p>There's nothing stopping you from going to med school if you stay in Rutgers, but getting into pharmacy would probably better with a degree from one of the best pharmacy schools in the country. </p>
<p>It all depends on if you enjoy Rutgers, I guess.</p>
<p>yea, plus rutgers has a great football team now ; ). Don't see Cornell in division 1!</p>
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I say stay. You're already a few years into college, you've made friends, and most importantly you are in a comfort zone. You've obviously done well enoguh at Rutgers to swtich to Cornell, but if you're happy where you are and what you are studying, enjoying the college experience is much more important then going to one for name.
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<p>actually only been at rutgers for one semester, 6 yr pharm program. Decision's not so much about the name as the path it'll lead me to (doc or pharmacist). and the football team does rock. hoo-rah!</p>
<p>being a doctor is a really stressful life and theres just so many ppl working in that field. I think pharmacy is the way to go and being in a 6 year program already ensures you some stability.</p>
<p>Life is all about keeping your options open. Stay at Rutgers and get the pharm degree. Make sure you take the organic, physics, chem and bio and calc, which you may need for your degree anyway. Take the MCATS. You can always apply and go to med school. You would command a nice salary at a in Big Pharma with both degrees : )</p>
<p>Um why on EARTH would you not transfer. You are a GT anyway. It's guaranteed.</p>
<p>You do NOT have to become a doctor with your Cornell major, necessarily, you can be whatever you want to be. You could go to law school with a Food Science degree, or work for Goldman Sachs. Your major doesn't matter...except in your case at Rutgers where they have a great pharmacy program, or so I hear, which is obviously specialized, like an undergraduate business degree or something.</p>
<p>It seems that you have chosen to stay at Rutgers simply because studying pharmacology will give you "job security." This is the dumbest thing that I have ever heard. If you are passionate about the program and are sure that it is what you want to do, then go for it and stay at Rutgers. But if you don't care then definitely transfer to Cornell. The degree would serve you better in life and you would have a better college experience. All you have to do is do what you enjoy most and you will be successful. If you WANT to be a doctor, then be a doctor because you care about the future of medical research and saving lives et cetera. If you don't want to do this, then do whatever you want. "Security" or "stability" is a dumb rationale for a major or a school. </p>
<p>Conclusion: Unless you absolutely are in looooove with the pharmacy program and specifically said program at Rutgers, then transfer to Cornell no question and study what you enjoy most. Success (including but not limited to, yes, financial success) will come with that.</p>
<p>The amount of work is the biggest factor, but i also got to think about money. If i stay at rutgers i'll have no debt whatsoever. Pharm. seems more interesting than becoming a doctor. takin the mcats while in pharm is somethin i hadnt thought about, although id prob go insane w/ the work. I guess all i can do is wait and see. thx for the advice everyone</p>
<p>I dont think this was ever truly a debate. Sounds like Rutgers is the solution for u.</p>
<p>By the way, Cornell is a Division I football team, just as it is Division I in all sports. That said, Rutgers did (finally...) have a heck of a football team this year.</p>
<p>Well, Division I in football has two subdivisions. Ivy League is in the lower division (it's called I-AA) while Rutgers belongs to the upper division.</p>
<p>That is not true. Those distinctions have now again been removed, although there is a "bowl division" and a "playoff division."</p>
<p>That said, and although the Ivy League has more national championships in football than any conference, it no longer can recruit against the Alabamas and Florida States of the world, and perhaps Rutgers as New Jersey's state university can do so. It would be kind of quaint to see any school from the Northeast compete in football at its highest level for more than an isolated year or two.</p>
<p>reccrimblue,</p>
<p>I guess you don't watch much football. There are Div-1A and Div-1AA. <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/standings?div=iaa%5B/url%5D">http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/standings?div=iaa</a> </p>
<p>Even within the Div-1AA, the Ivy League is considered mediocre at best. They pretty much play against each other or teams in the Patriot League (i.e. in their own isolated world).</p>
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<p>They got all that long time ago--the days when tertiary education was mostly limited to the priviledged and Ivies were way ahead of others in training facilties. The "national championship" was probably pretty much just an Ivy League championship.</p>
<p>my aren't we touchy, and quite wrong</p>
<p>First, there are no longer I-A and I-AA, despite your outdated link.</p>
<p>Second, there were Ivy national champions who were routinely defeating the Michigans, Ohio States, Stanfords and Californias and other so-called powerhouses.</p>
<p>I acknowledge those days are past, but facts are facts.</p>
<p>LOL! I didn't know you can pull out an "oudated" yahoo page. How about this ESPN one:
<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/standings%5B/url%5D">http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/standings</a>
It says at the top:
Division I-A | Division I-AA | Division II | Division III</p>
<p>Is this another "outdated" page?</p>
<p>A person who's on the defensive and in denial is calling others "touchy". ;)</p>
<p>Speaking on that, where did I say they weren't facts. I was just providing the context surrounding those facts. Footall was first slowly developed in New England around late 1800s. The last time Ivy won any football championship was 1922 when Stanford, Cal...etc weren't powerhouses, very much like Greece winning lots of medals during the first couple Olympics when USA wasn't a powerhouse for those sports.</p>
<p>Alright, Sam, I am sure you mean well. Division 1-A and 1-AA no longer exist. </p>
<p>And Ivies have won national championships far later than you claim. </p>
<p>From Wikipedia:</p>
<p>History
"D-I" schools are the major collegiate athletic powers, with larger budgets, more elaborate facilities, and higher numbers of athletic scholarships. This level was once called the "University" division of the NCAA in contrast to the "College" division; this terminology was replaced with the current numeric (I, II, III) divisions in 1973. In football only, Division I was further subdivided into Division I-A (the principal football schools) and Division I-AA in 1978. Subsequently the term "Division I-AAA" was added to delineate Division I schools which do not field a football program at all.</p>
<p>A controversy recently arose in the NCAA over whether schools will continue to be allowed to have one showcased program in Division I with the remainder of the athletic program in a lower division, as is the case of, notably, Johns Hopkins University in lacrosse and Colorado College in ice hockey. This is an especially important issue in hockey, which has no Division II competition and has several Division II and Division III athletic programs competing in Division I. This controversy was resolved at the 2004 NCAA Convention in Nashville, Tennessee when the members supported Proposal 65-1, the amended legislation co-sponsored by Colorado College, Clarkson University, Hartwick College, Johns Hopkins University, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Rutgers University-Newark, St. Lawrence University, and SUNY Oneonta. Each school affected by this debate is allowed to grant financial aid to student-athletes who compete in Division I programs in one men's sport and one women's sport. It is still permitted for other schools to place one men's and one women's sport in Division I going forward, but they cannot offer scholarships without bringing the whole program into compliance with Division I rules.</p>
<p>Subdivisions
Subdivisions in Division I are important only in football. In all other sports, all Division I conferences are considered equivalent. The subdivisions were recently given names to reflect the differing levels of football play in them. Additionally, the sport of ice hockey has a completely different conference structure that operates outside of the normal NCAA sports conference structure.</p>
<p>The method by which the NCAA determines whether a school is Bowl or Championship subdivision is first by attendance numbers and then by scholarships. Although scholarships are only one of several methods for the NCAA to determine if they have some form of financial backing for the program they do look at attendance as an additional key consideration. For attendance they either will allow the tickets sold or the number of actual people attending the season games as reporting methods. They require a minimum of 15,000 people in attendance for each home game as an average every other year. These numbers get posted to the NCAA statistics website for football each year. In the 2005 football season 14 schools were listed with an average below 15,000. With the new rules starting in the 2006 season, the amount of Bowl subdivision schools could drop in the near future if those schools are not able to pull in enough fans into the games. Additionally, 8 schools in the Championship subdivision have enough attendance to be moved up in 2005.</p>
<p>Division I-Bowl Subdivision
Division I-Bowl Subdivision (formerly known as I-A) football is the only NCAA-sponsored sport without an organized tournament to determine its champion. Schools in Division I-A compete in post-season bowl games, with the champions of six conferences receiving automatic bids to the highly lucrative Bowl Championship Series to determine a national champion. This is due to many factors, including tradition and certain legal decisions against the NCAA. The remaining five conferences often referred to as "Mid-Majors" do not receive automatic bids, but their conference champions are eligible for one of the four remaining "at-large" spots. The NCAA has also pushed for Division I-Bowl Subdivision schools to be forced to schedule a minimum number of home games each season, and meet attendance requirements for those games. This has met with resistance from smaller conferences, where schools often receive large amounts of money to play road games against schools from the BCS-conferences.</p>
<p>Scholarships
Division I-Bowl Subdivision schools are currently limited to a total of 85 football players receiving financial assistance. Due to the fact that for competitive reasons a student on partial scholarship counts fully against the total of 85, virtually all I-A schools that are not on NCAA probation give 85 full scholarships. The service academies—in this context, Army, Navy, and Air Force—are exempt from this rule, as all of their students receive full scholarships from the federal government.</p>
<p>Conferences
Conference Nickname Founded Members Sports Headquarters BCS Bid
Atlantic Coast Conference ACC 1953 12 20 Greensboro, North Carolina Automatic
Big East Conference Big East 1979 16 23 Providence, Rhode Island Automatic
Big Ten Conference Big Ten 1896 11 25 Park Ridge, Illinois Automatic
Big 12 Conference Big 12 1994 12 21 Dallas, Texas Automatic
Pacific 10 Conference Pac 10 1959 10 22 Walnut Creek, California Automatic
Southeastern Conference SEC 1932 12 17 Birmingham, Alabama Automatic
Conference USA C-USA 1995 12 19 Irving, Texas Invitation
Mid-American Conference MAC 1946 12 23 Cleveland, Ohio Invitation
Mountain West Conference MWC 1999 9 14 Colorado Springs, Colorado Invitation
Sun Belt Conference Sun Belt 1976 13 19 New Orleans, Louisiana Invitation
Western Athletic Conference WAC 1962 9 19 Greenwood Village, Colorado Invitation </p>
<p>Division I-Championship Subdivision
The Division I-Championship Subdivision (formerly known as I-AA) determines its champion in a 16-team, single-elimination tournament. The champions of eight conferences receive automatic bids to this tournament. However, teams from other conferences are still eligible for one of the eight remaining "at-large" spots. The Ivy League and Southwestern Athletic Conference (SWAC) choose not participate in this tournament, and the Pioneer Football League and Northeast Conference play in the 'Gridiron Classic', though all conference teams technically remain tournament eligible.</p>
<p>When I-AA was formed in 1978, the playoffs were comprised of just four teams, doubling to eight teams in 1981. The following year (1982) changed to a 12-team tourney, with the each of the top 4 seeds receiving a first-round bye and a home game in the quarterfinals. The I-AA playoffs went to the present 16-team format in 1986. The "I-AA" was dropped by the NCAA for 2006 season and playoffs, although it is still informally used.</p>
<p>The last SWAC team to participate in the I-AA playoffs was Jackson State in 1997; the SWAC never achieved success in the tournament, going winless in 19 games in twenty years (1978-97). The Ivy league, which was moved down to I-AA beginning in 1982 (against their wishes), has a strict 10-game schedule policy and has yet to participate in the I-AA playoffs.</p>
<p>Schools in a transition period after joining I-AA from Division II are also ineligible for the playoffs. Several highly ranked teams in 2006 were excluded, with #3 North Dakota State as the most notable absence. NDSU's only setback was a 10-9 loss at Minnesota of the Big Ten conference; the Bison will not be eligible for the playoffs until the 2008 season.</p>
<p>The three service academies (Army, Navy, & Air Force) were briefly considered for I-AA status in the early 1980s, but under a recommendation from the Pentagon, have remained in the NCAA's top division.</p>
<p>Scholarships
Division I-Championship Subdivision schools are currently restricted to giving financial assistance amounting to 63 full scholarships. Unlike Division I-Bowl Subdivision schools, partial scholarships do not count against the 63, but Division I-Championship Subdivision schools are limited to 85 players receiving any sort of athletic financial aid for football. Competitive forces, though, mean that a substantial number of players in Division I-Championship Subdivision programs are on full scholarships. A few Division I-Championship Subdivision conferences are composed of schools that offer no athletic scholarships at all, most notably the Ivy League, as well as the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference and the Pioneer Football League, a football only conference. The Northeast Conference also sponsored non-scholarship football, but began offering a maximum of 30 full scholarship equivalents in 2006. The Patriot League does not give football scholarships, but permits them in other sports (athletes receiving these scholarships are ineligible to play football for Patriot League schools). A national championship team for this level of football is determined annually (since 2001) by a poll conducted by The Sports Network. The #1-ranked Division I-Championship Subdivision mid-major team is awarded The Sports Network Cup on the eve of the overall Division I-Championship Subdivision championship game. The PFL and NEC also meet in an exempted postseason game called the Gridiron Classic, which will match the champions of the two Division I-Championship Subdivision football conferences.</p>
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