<p>i think that duke is not very good</p>
<p>why would you even post that in a thread about the ivy league?!</p>
<p>also, how can you say that in ANY thread...especially without backing it up!</p>
<p>All of the Ivy League schools are great!</p>
<p>oh cornell is soooo terrible. we admit like, 20% or some ridiculous high number. I mean, what kind of institution has the goal to give a great education to as many people as possible? and the motto, "any person, any study", and not in latin? please... Engineering, hotel, aem, and physical sciences don't count, obv., because those are not real subjects. And getting $$$ from the state? Excuse me? Is that how weak your donations are? You don't have enough funds to pay for every incoming student for the next 10 years and not have to take a budget cut? Your own president is taking a voluntary budget cut. What a joke! You shouldn't even be in the ivy league. It almost seems like you actually want to help out middle-class ordinary people!</p>
<p>Cornell is different from the others. That's the reason.</p>
<p>The huge irony of this discussion is that Cornell pioneered a number of educational innovations without which the rest of the Ivy League would be also-rans today. Among them: co-education, majors and electives, secular education, selection of students based on merit and a commitment to educate qualified students without regard to their financial resources. 90% of the students on CC who slaver over Harvard or Yale wouldn't have a chance at either -- and wouldn't even really be intersted in either -- had they not followed Cornell's lead some generations ago. (And that of another important laboratory for these innovations: the University of Michigan.) Most of us owe a permanent debt of gratitude to Cornell.</p>
<p>JHS forgot to mention Happy Dave.</p>
<p>On that alone, Cornell trumps any school that is not Cornell.</p>
<p>What does being the most looked down upon ivy league school really mean? That among super selective, super prestigious, super high quality schools its on the lower end? yeah...... big deal......</p>
<p>I'm glad to see someone agrees with me about that.</p>
<p>this is a dumb question.
i mean, come on, the "worst" of the ivy league is still an AMAZING school
besides it's not like we can decide like that. for instance, cornell's engineering/architecture/hotel are all awesome.</p>
<p>defiantly Yale</p>
<p>Obviously MIT is the worst, followed by Cal Tech.</p>
<p>Fresno City College</p>
<p>uniformly cornell. By the way the whole excuse that they just want to educate as many people as they can is ********. How about they accept twice the amount of kids? These schools are all trying to be prestigious, academically excellent, mid-sized schools. O yea and the cut throat competitiveness of Cornell, along with its dismal location has an impact.</p>
<p>Good schools with excellent academic opportunities are only looked down upon by those who don't matter.</p>
<p>It funny, but of all the Ivies, Cornell is my number one. Oh, and why the hell would anyone look down on an Ivy?</p>
<p>And as I contemplate this I am once again neglecting the bio and physics tests I have tomorrow. CC, you've done it again...</p>
<p>Wow, why are we even having this conversation? Regardless of which of the Ivies is the best, they all provide a great education (one that is probably better than what most Americans will receive). And really, having an admissions rate of 20% does not make a Cornell worse than Harvard or Yale. Hundreds of students rejected by those schools were just as smart and could have done the work just as well as the admitted students. They just had a bad interview, a less enthralling essay or an SAT score 30 points lower.</p>
<p>or a crappy admissions officer.</p>
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<p>Totally. Not including those two, however, Stanford is probably the worst in the Ivy League.</p>
<p>I look down on all Ivy League schools. They're worthless, duh.</p>