Probably Biology (pre med).
Iâve never heard of either of these. What is a SUNY school?
SUNY = State University of New York.
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OP- NY doesnât really have a flagship university but thatâs a good thing not a bad thing. Check them out.
For bio she could go anywhere in the state- for physics/Comp Sci, Stonybrook is tops. Youâll need to run the numbers on affordability⊠and on prices to get home and back⊠some of the more rural schools arenât very accessible.
As @momofboiler1 said SUNY is NY states public university system. Like UCâs in California. Really great public schools that have traditionally been very in-state focused. They have been making a push the past few years to bring in more OOS students. They offer lots of merit for OOS students bringing tuition down to in-state levels.
If you are looking at Biology Iâd check out SUNY-Binghamton & Stony Brook, & SUNY Geneseo. First two are more traditional research oriented. Geneseo has more of a public ivy vibe
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She is not going to want to hear this, but her in-state and reciprocity options are excellent. UW Madison will have a vibe very similar to U Michiganâhappy, smart, engaged, students in a great college town (plus state capitol) with great school spirit. The University of Minnesota has strong biology, plus it has the advantage of belonging to National Student Exchange. NSE is a consortium of ~200 schools mainly in the US, but some in Canada and the Caribbean too. You can do up to a year of exchange at any of the participating schools, credits transfer automatically, and you only pay whatever you were paying at your home institution. Some very cool schools participate including Cal Poly SLO, U Mass Amherst, American University, Texas A&M. https://www.nse.org/exchange/colleges-universities/alpha-location/
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I would have this discussion now. You donât want to be faced with the pressure of an acceptance to an unaffordable school.
As far as other options, for pre-med, three MSEP schools stand out, Indiana, Kansas and Truman State. They are all good schools with long histories of academic strength.
Of them, Truman stands out in my mind. Why? Itâs smaller and sheâs likely to get more attention. Pre-med at bigger schools can be sink or swim. Itâs nice to get extra support.
Good luck!
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Try Pittsburgh. Her ACT might be high enough to get enough merit for it to be affordable. Youâd know relatively early. Admissions will let you know quickly. Merit aid not too long afterward. Itâs very highly regarded for Pre-med, has a lot of research available, and there are multiple hospitals within walking distance for shadowing, volunteering, etc.
Around me many high stat students use it as their safety, but then choose it over other acceptances because they find they really like it there. This is limited to urban lovers though. If sheâs looking for more rural, suburban, or campus with a âbubbleâ around it in a city, Pitt doesnât work as well for âfit.â
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Consider the DoD Smart scholarship. She could serve as a Defense civilian
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@MNGirlMom if you better define what âaffordableâ is for your specific situation, you will likely get more helpful responses.
Look at MCCullough Medical Scholars at Alabama. Youâll be $20k or less all-in with auto merit at the school. Lots of other publics will have auto merit and some LACs like Kalamazoo and Depauw will give you great merit, getting you under $40k if sue wants an LAC. Not just them but many more.
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Iâm not sure UNC or U of Michigan gives OOS waiversâŠand both give primarily need based aid, not merit aid. The merit aid they give is highly competitive.
Also, UNC caps the %age of OOS students it will acceptâŠand that needs to be considered as well.
Thinking out of the box, while it is a reach financially, perhaps look at Wash & Lee. It is next door to VMI (there is an entrance and street connecting the two campuses) and allows cross registration and has some shared activities. With your Dâs interest in military academies that may be appealing.
W&L is generous with need-based aid and also offers the Johnson Scholarship (merit based full ride) to 10% of the incoming class plus several full tuition merit scholarships based on region and other criteria (e.g. Jewish students).
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Multiple FL schools give OOS waivers and some also stack merit. If merit is absolutely needed then you NEED to apply early. It will provide more opportunities for merit at some schools. Take a look at honors colleges as well. An honors college at a lesser ranked university may provide many opportunities for a pre-med student. U of SC Honors is also one to look at for OOS Merit.
If she is premed, she can major in anything. She should choose to major in whatever she really loves, that she can get high grades in. If there is anything that she loves aside from Biology, she should consider that.
She could get very substantial merit at certain 3rd tier liberal arts schools, plus it will be easier for her to get a 4.0 there. She also could do very well at the OOS flagships that are offering massive merit to attract high achieving students - places like Arizona, Alabama, Oklahoma come to mind, and there are others.
UMass Amherst will award her 16K/yr merit and honors college, but cost will still be over 40K/yr. Their dorms and food are excellent - high quality of life there. Plus she can take some classes at Amherst college next door, and also at Smith, Holyoke, and Hampshire. Her best bet, honestly, is her in-state flagship. She should apply for their highest in-state merit scholarships. Sheâs also an excellent candidate for OOS merit at any public schools that award it - meaning NOT California.
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Is this to get OOS tuition waiverâŠor to get SAT registration waiver.
I think this parent is looking for schools that will waive the OOS tuition cost and charge instate costs only. Not just free application or test waiver costs.
Sorry. Deleted. Too early. Thx for catch. Meant app waivers.
If your daughter is seriously considering med school, then you as her parents may need to think about an eight year plan of financing her education (your income and assets will still be a factor in med school financial aid)
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Lots of good ideas. Kansas and Kansas State both have very good biology/pre-med track programs. Son did pre vet at Kansas State and his fiancée was biology (she was valedictorian of her hs) both were challenged, had top grades and very happy with their education. My son was OOS and with scholarships it was cheaper than our IS. Also COL is low there.