<p>Just wondering which UC's have the most scholarships available for first generation college students, Foster care youth, and students who are in college despite numerous obstacles and adversity?</p>
<p>Because they asked questions relating to these in the scholarship section on the UC App</p>
<p>Bump bump bump</p>
<p>uc irvine is where the money is at</p>
<p>For transfers? Because freshman got no aid money ( atleast I didnt)</p>
<p>Yeah, for transfers lol</p>
<p>Have no idea…</p>
<p>I know that lower uc’s can get competitive with each other when it comes to certain students.</p>
<p>A friend of mine who is Black got into ucla, uci, and ucr (Berkeley was only rejection) was recruited aggressively by riverside. They offered him a full ride… Ultimately he choose ucla but said the money from ucr was tempting. Don’t know if the fact that he got in as a math major and he is black played a role it.</p>
<p>What I do know when more than one UC finds you valuable then they will compete for you. Usually the mid to low UC’s have to compete harder by throwing more money at you.</p>
<p>So if I were to get accepted to UCLA and UCSB, more than likely UCSB would offer me more money to go there so that they would compete with UCLA? Kind of or not really?</p>
<p>And at UCSB I have all major prep, IGETC certified, 8-9/10 on personal statement, an AA in major, and TAG.</p>
<p>UCSB and ucd gave me less than cal and ucla</p>
<p>Were u a financial aid student in CCC and what’s ur EFC if you don’t mind me asking?</p>
<p>For me UCSB gave me the most $$$, I was really tempted to go there. My EFC was 0 (that is why I went to CC in the first place). however UCSB is not a target school for Banking and I really want to work in the financial industry.</p>
<p>UCSB was really interested that I was a math major and of color (if you must know the color is brown), don’t know if that played a role…</p>
<p>One last fact, at UCLA we are bruins, which means bear, however by looking at the population the majority of Bears you see are Polar Bears and Panda Bears. There are very few Brown Bears and Black Bears are very rare especially in South Campus (STEM side)… ironic dont you think?</p>
<p>@Dagoberto</p>
<p>…Just how rare are black people at UCLA? Are they like, urban legends or something?</p>
<p>I’m black and hoping to transfer there, lol.</p>
<p>[AIM</a> | UCLA](<a href=“http://www.aim.ucla.edu/tables/enrollment_demographics_fall.aspx]AIM”>http://www.aim.ucla.edu/tables/enrollment_demographics_fall.aspx)</p>
<p>According to this, there’s 1635 black students (both undergrad and grad) in fall 2013 out of a total of roughly 42,000 students. That gives you about 0.039%… not a whole lot.</p>
<p>Wow, they only accepted 234 black students that were transfers for Fall 2013? I’m shocked.</p>
<p>Anybody on here applied to the CSU’s?</p>
<p>not to be a negative ned, </p>
<p>but there is not a lot of black bruins @ UCLA. Im not saying that you a very rare breed, you will see them but they are not as prevalent as polar bears or even brown bruins.</p>
<p>Here is a video that was made regarding that situation:</p>
<p>[The</a> Black Bruins [Spoken Word] - Sy Stokes - YouTube<a href=“quick%20update%20UCLA%20has%20now%20110%20national%20championships”>/url</a></p>
<p>about a year ago there was an article by a professor that says criticized the UCLA admission process stating that too many unqualified black people were being admitted: [url=<a href=“http://dailybruin.com/2012/10/23/findings-by-law-professor-suggest-that-ucla-admissions-may-be-violating-prop-209/]Findings”>Findings by law professor suggest that UCLA Admissions may be violating Prop 209 - Daily Bruin]Findings</a> by law professor suggest that UCLA Admissions may be violating Prop 209 | Daily Bruin](<a href=“The Black Bruins [Spoken Word] - Sy Stokes - YouTube”>The Black Bruins [Spoken Word] - Sy Stokes - YouTube)</p>
<p>according to him (paraphrasing), these students dont belong at UCLA or Berkeley but perhaps at other mid-tier UC’s or CSU’s. very offensive paper but you must realize that the higher up you go in life you will find people that feel like that about minorities.</p>
<p>anyways I myself have been part of the Black Business Student Association, which is a very cool club [Upcoming</a> Events](<a href=“Student Organizations | UCLA Student Organizations, Leadership & Engagement”>Student Organizations | UCLA Student Organizations, Leadership & Engagement) </p>
<p>The point I want to make is that if any of you want to become Black Bruins or Black Bears (UCLA or Berkeley), dont let the haters intimidate you.</p>
<p>Very informative, Dagoberto. I appreciate the info and will soon read it.</p>
<p>And yeah, haters gonna hate. :P</p>
<p>@Dagoberto, That “Black Bruins” video is a complete joke. Saying things such as waiting for an apology is asking for the impossible because no snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. LOL. Complaining about halls named after those that stood against AA. AA is legalized discrimination. I guess discrimination is only permitted when you’re the one benefiting? Brilliant logic. </p>
<p>They go from stating most African-American UG’s are athletes (64%) to complaining about most not being able to afford tuition, thus, leading most to drop out. Wow, as if tuition is only inherently expensive for black kids. I’m sure a good percentage of those students are paying less compared to the vast majority of others on campus. Not proud of going to UCLA? Don’t go then. They state that now black students care less about grades so long as their jersey number doesn’t fade… So, UCLA is responsible for the ambitions of black HS students now? I could go on and on but I think I’ve made my point. </p>
<p>I find this video to be quite repulsive. The ignorance is clearly prevalent. I would love to see more black students on the UCLA campus. And yes, the low percentage of black students on campus is quite staggering. However, the solution isn’t AA. It isn’t whining and pointing fingers. The solution is change within the culture of black families. People wonder why so many asians attend UC’s, well, they earn it. </p>
<p>I doubt UCLA is denying qualified URM students. Seemingly, this video calls for UCLA to accept more URM students based on percentages. Even if the UC’s could administer AA, AA can’t set ratios like that. I’d be curious to hear what these students would think about permitting AA in college athletics…</p>
<p>Personally, Snorlaz, I support Affirmative Action, so I must respectfully disagree with you on the subject. I support it on the basis of class and not on race, however. In any case, blacks and other minorities would still benefit from it.</p>
<p>You contend that black cultural attitudes are the primary causes of their failure to achieve in school, but I think you aren’t pointing out the cause, but a symptom of a larger one: poverty. I say this because this cultural attitude isn’t typically cited as a cause for hispanic failure to achieve in higher education and yet they are only marginally more successful than their African-American counterparts. What both groups have in common is that they are disproportionately impacted by the forces of poverty.</p>
<p>Poverty genuinely makes it harder to do well in school, especially when the schools you go to are underfunded, offer few, if any AP classes, and are generally not conducive to learning and the academic experience overall as they should be.Also, did you know that living in poverty actually makes you less intelligent? New research has shown that it does, which obviously makes it more challenging to do well in school. I’m not saying that the cultural disdain for educational achievement present in some elements of black culture isn’t a problem. I’m just saying that it isn’t the root problem. It’s a symptom.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, I took a general psychology class last year and this subject came up. My professor gave a fascinating mini-lecture on why this attitude you mention and related things exist in minority cultures. I forgot the details of what he said, but he essentially boiled it down to the fact that crushing poverty experienced by these people brings about a sense of hopelessness so powerful that they feel discouraged from even trying to better their situation through school. I’m not sure if I got all of that right, but it seems to make sense to some degree. Institutionalized racism also plays a role in perpetuating this poverty. Affirmative action is just a step in the right direction in my opinion, but it’s not enough. </p>
<p>Personally, since I view Affirmative Action as an attempt to rectify some aspects of institutionalized racism, I can’t say that it’s discriminatory. At least, it’s not any more discriminatory than an admissions process that doesn’t use Affirmative Action. Moreover, the benefits of AA strongly outweigh the costs to non-minority students to the best of my knowledge. But if you oppose AA, then I think it would be prudent of you to at least recognize that institutionalized racism exists and puts most minorities at a distinct disadvantage. I think it’d also be prudent to oppose this kind of racism and support politicians who seek to disband it. If it’s disbanded, AA would no longer be necessary. Until then, AA will be necessary to make the admissions process a level playing field. Feel free to disagree, but that’s just my take on it.</p>
<p>I agree, AA based on class would be much more beneficial. IMO, as it currently stands, AA generally puts the URM student at a disadvantage. I spend most of my time on TLS so my opinion against AA is mostly on the GS level. The URM students that get into T14 schools generally have lower numbers. These kids basically get thrown into the ring with 150 other kids who have higher scores, all throwing down possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars to compete for a limited number of good grades/jobs. </p>
<p>One of my sisters teaches in New Orleans. She teaches in a rough neighborhood that is largely populated by African-Americans. The issue is too big to even explain but basically she has a hard time teaching due to the schools/parents/students. Many students are poor. Many will only get their meals for the day at school. Yet, well over half of these kids have a smartphone. My sister says most of her students don’t have good role models at home. The ones that don’t take school seriously disrupt the rest of the classroom and hold others behind. Some show signs of learning disabilities but the parents refuse to test their kids. The parents and school refuse to hold kids back. The list goes on and on. And it isn’t as if this experience is exclusive to the black community this is just what my sister has observed in 5 years there. </p>
<p>The one’s who do benefit from AA are often very advantaged as well. I think this is another aspect that could obviously be fixed if it was based on SEC rather than skin color. Clarence Thomas noted the fact that AA makes the student/employers essentially think in the back of their mind that they got where they were due to skin color, not intellect. Which often can hurt someone who is actually really intelligent. I mean we’ve got a 2 term black president and a black man in the SCOTUS that both benefited from AA. One of those, the more intelligent in my opinion, stands firmly against AA. </p>
<p>“Personally, since I view Affirmative Action as an attempt to rectify some aspects of institutionalized racism.” </p>
<p>I personally just feel as though those competing for admittance have played no role in any perceived acts of institutionalized racism. Rectifying things of this magnitude seems like something that would have worked in the 1800’s.</p>
<p>@Cayton and Dagoberto, no offense guys, but I think you’re both full of crap. I have to agree with Snorlz about that ridiculous video that’s been playing lately. It’s so easy for these jerks to blame the UC system, because it’s easier than placing the blame where it really belongs, in the black community. If poverty was the real factor as you say it is, Cayton, then how do you explain the high number of poor Asians that get accepted? By your logic, they should be at the same disadvantage as black and Hispanic students. Yet despite the number of poor Asians, they are able to achieve academic success. Why is that? Could it be because, unlike in the black and Hispanic communities, education is held to a much higher standard in Asian households. </p>
<p>You guys are probably going to resort to the argument of the ignorant and call me a racist, but you would be wrong. I have no negative feelings towards either group, and truly would like to see them thrive, but passing the blame off to the “institution of racism” is the least effective way of alleviating the problem. It’s not racist to say that some ethnic groups place a higher value on education. I understand this is a generalization, and I’m not talking about an entire group, just a high percentage of these groups.</p>
<p>I walk the UCLA campus four days a week and I can tell you that I see quite a bit of black and Hispanic students, so this argument is getting a little old. To Cayton, How is a non-AA admissions process discriminatory? It’s not like the admissions reps look at the apps and discard the ones that are minorities. If those students aren’t performing, then the school can’t just accept them to meet a quota. Can’t you see how racist that mode of thinking is? You’re basically saying black students can’t get accepted unless they’re given an advantage over everyone else. Not using AA is the least discriminatory system the university could use in accepting minority students. As it stands, without AA, minority students know that they’re being accepted based on their personal achievements and not the color of their skin. I thought that was the driving motivation behind the civil rights movement. </p>
<p>Going back to your argument about poverty, is it the fault of the UC system? I would say that’s still a problem focused in the black community. Just look at Dr. Dre’s recent 70 million dollar donation to USC. This is a perfect example of a person who came from a poor neighborhood and had an opportunity to give back to his community, but he decided instead to donate his money to an already wealthy private school because he wanted his name on a building. I’m sure he’s already given plenty to his old neighborhood, but why should any money go to USC before the problem of poverty is fixed in the black community.</p>