Who do you think would get in?(Not a chances thread)

Colleges & Universities A-Z University of Pennsylvania
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<p>I saw these stats on another website and would like to see if you guys can evaluate if these people got in or not.</p>

<p>First person:
African American/Korean Male
Applying to School of Engineering and Applied Sciences
Location: Pennsylvania
GPA: 3.85UW/3.90W
Math 620<br>
Critical Reading 620<br>
Writing 590 </p>

<p>Subject Tests:
Chemistry 560
Math Level 1 590</p>

<p>Activities:
City Center Academy Honor Society
Secretary Treasurer
11,12
CCA Senior Fundraising Project
Assistant Treasurer
12
CCA School Choir
Vocalist (Soloist)
10, 11, (12)
CCA Math Team
Team Member (Lead)
10, 11, 12
CCA Yearbook Publications
Photographer/Writer
11, 12
CCA Varsity Basketball Team
Backup Shooting Guard </p>

<p>Honors/Awards:
CCA Honor Roll (Highest Honors) {4.0-4.3 GPA}
11,12
CCA Honor Society Awards: (Founding) and <a href=“11”>Returning</a>,[12]
2006 Ventures Scholar
12
Outstanding Participant: PSAT/NMSQT 2006 National Achievement Scholarship Program
12
National Honor Roll
12
CCA Math Team Award: School Pre-Calculus Champion
11
CCA Chemistry Award: “Best Lab Chemist”
11
CCA David Brainerd Award: CCA School Servant
11
CCA English Award: Linda McNamara Boice Award (Love of Literature)
11
CCA Math Award: “Euler” Award (Love of Mathematics)
11
CCA History Award: Historiophile Award (Love of History)
11
CCA Honor Roll (High Honors) {3.3-3.7 GPA}
10 (4th Qtr)
CCA Honor Roll (Honors) {3.0-3.3 GPA}
10 (3rd Qtr) </p>

<p>Footnote: "Honestly, I think a factor in applying to Penn was that I was from Philadelphia, plus the fact that I was able to get recommendations from Penn alumni that had actually seen how I performed, and not just on paper. But I think the biggest factor in my admissions process was my strong grades. Strong SAT scores (2000+) may be good, but one can coach for them in 6 months to a year. But it’s not as easy to stay focused on your grades for four straight years.
Don’t try to write what you think the admissions officers will like to hear; write your essays from your heart, and not based on what someone else tries to tell you.
About interviews, I think that they should only be used to try to explain unique situations, but overall, use them to give yourself a positive image for the school. However, I didn’t need one because I had attended a Penn summer program - sort of a month long “interview”, so to speak. </p>

<h2>As for special talents, you need to show how you show leadership and dedication to an activity that shows your talent - whether it be singing, acting, dancing, computing, etc."</h2>

<p>2nd Person
Latino/Caucasian Male
Prospective Major: Theatre
GPA: 3.28UW/3.43W
Math 650<br>
Critical Reading 690<br>
Writing 770 </p>

<p>Subject Tests:
English Literature 720
Math Level 1 680
Latin 610 </p>

<p>Activities:
Chamber Orchestra - Secretary, Section Leader 5/40
Jazz Ensemble - President 1/40
NJS - Secretary 3/40
Community Service 1/35
Varsity Swimming 10/15 </p>

<p>Honors/Awards:
National Latin Award (Maxima Cum Laude)
National Honor Society – Secretary
Honors in Community Service
Honor Roll </p>

<p>CSUN1, Teenage Drama Workshop – Honor Roll
CSUN, Teenage Drama Workshop – Fellowship
Chamber Orchestra – Director’s Award in Orchestra
Chamber Orchestra – Section Leader / Principal Bass / Secretary
Chamber Orchestra – Most Improved Musician
Varsity Swimming – Most Inspirational Swimmer
Varsity Swimming – Most Improved Swimmer
Winner – “Battle of the Bands” (bass player)
AP Scholar with Honors </p>

<p>Footnote: “I had strong recommendations and positive interviews with alumni. I believe that my essays set me apart. I was extremely on top of the application process.”</p>

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<p>I think both got in. I hate to bring race into this but I think that is what got them in.</p>

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<p>yup, I also think both got in!
Again, this comes to show SAT's aren't EVERYTHING!!!!</p>

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<p>You guys are wrong. One got in and the other got rejected.</p>

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<p>if one got in i would have to think it was the second one</p>

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<p>Wrong again!:D The first one got in and the second one didn't.</p>

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<p>Why would you think the second got in? I definitely think it would have been the first one.</p>

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<p>Yeah, I'd have said the first one got in and not the second</p>

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<p>oh the madnessss</p>

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<p>ha, this kind of gives me hope...</p>

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<p>too bad im ASIAN =(</p>

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<p>Not even URM can make up for a 3.28 UW GPA...</p>

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<p>is the first kid considered URM? asian/black, thats an odd combo, and gets the best of both worlds if he IS in fact considered to be URM. although, he is not as URM as say, a pure black person, and his scores are meh, far below the average, but GPA is good. im gonna go ahead and say this gives me a glimmer of life, because of the comment he made about essays, and really conveying YOURSELF to penn. shows that bad scores and grades can be made up for with great character (not necessarily in the form of EC's either). i think what this says is: for a school like penn, you need to show a dire interest in it, and also in yourself. having a single passion would probably help immensley in penn admissions.</p>

<p>well, thats what i got out of it :) im interested in what the rest of you interpret this as!</p>

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<p>i agree - although i have no idea what standing Blasians have with URM stuff. </p>

<p>would it be good if you've got decent stats, a burning desire to be at penn && a single passion? ... :) i need at least a deferral - i couldn't handle a rejection :( lol</p>

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<p>honestly i think the "decent stats" gives penn the rep it has. people with decent stats do get in, but BECAUSE they show a true interest in the school. they also generally convey a true passion as well...so yea paro, honestly, i think if you can do that effectively (or if you did do that in the ED app), then you have a solid chance at being ACCEPTED :) dont get your hopes up though, this is comin from another kid who has decent stats ^.~</p>

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<p>This post really gives me so hope, I have decent stats.</p>

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<p>You're welcome:).</p>

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<p>i guess it now depends on your definition of "decent stats", eh?
or at least the adcoms' definition.
check out my stats profile and tell me what you think, impboy. u kno us CC kids are always looking for outside evaluations =) lol</p>

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<p>paro academically/test wise you are above average. well above average if i may say (unless you are a wharton kid...then you are average). but i think if you really are passionate about dancing, and you made that come across to them, you have a great shot (again, depending on the school you applied to. sorri i cant remember ><;). ah, you need to ask yourself whether or not your essays came from your heart also, or did you struggle to write them. thats just something to ponder. i honestly did not struggle in the least to write my essays, they came easy from what i knew and felt. revising them and touching them up took a bit of effort, but on the whole, they were fun for me to write :)</p>

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<p>avg for wharton? u must be referring to math. yep - cant stand that numbers business. lol</p>

<p>good thing im CAS ed. lol. and my essays were DEFINITELY fun to write. i know wat u mean b/c i put effort in them but i didnt struggle b/c i knew exactly what i wanted to tell them.
thanks for the input =)</p>