<p>People keep telling me Emory is only good for pre-med and it gets all the money from Coca Cola. Is there a reason Vandy is seen as more prestigious in the south?</p>
<p>futurewhartonman,</p>
<p>You are truly misinformed. Making un-substantiated statements, and then asking questions of dubious merit may influence how others view your credibility.</p>
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<p>1) Emory is good for many things, not just pre-med. For example, the undegraduate business program is consistently ranked in the top ten in the nation. Emory's graduate school for business is consistently ranked in the top twenty in the nation, currently it is 18th (much higher than Vanderbilt's Bus. Grad school, which is ranked 49th). In terms of law school placement, in 2005-2006 Emory had 14 students at Harvard Law, Vanderbilt had nearly the same with 15 students. The Law School is solid; Emory's Law School is ranked 26th in the nation and places its graduates at solid jobs in the Southeast. The PhD programs for economics and political science are ranked in the mid 20's. </p>
<p>2) Emory does not get "all" its money from Coca Cola. That's laughable that you would actually believe that. Honestly, I hope you are exaggerating. I'm not sure of the exact percentages for ownership, although someone on this forum probably knows. The funny thing is, you make it sound like a bad thing. Having a major corporation donate globs of money to a unviersity is a BIG plus. What university wouldn't take a 105 million dollar gift of stock in 1979? (about one billion dollars in 2005) </p>
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<p>Unfortunately, I don't have any stats to debunk this statement. But, the truth is, both colleges are regarded as equally prestigious by most knowledgeable people.</p>
<p>By the way, your entire argument is based upon personal experience and word of mouth. </p>
<p>Both colleges are great. Personally, I liked Emory more and I choose Emory over Vanderbilt.</p>
<h2>When applying to graduate schools, there is no difference in prestige.</h2>
<p>In terms of laymen prestige, Vanderbilt is seen as more prestigious because it simply has much greater name-recognition. SEC football is a big deal in the south. The D-III UAA conference not so much.</p>
<p>Vanderbilt does not win. It has less resources and is perceived as a deeply southern school. The law school is the only program that is definitely better than the Emory counterpart, yet the business school at Emory more than makes up for it.</p>
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Lol. Saying it is inaccurate to call Vandy more prestigious IN THE SOUTH because it is percieved as "a deeply southern school" is funny as you just proved the OP's point. Also you are using selective data -- Vanderbilt boasts top graduate schools when compared to Emory (Law, Medicine, Education) while Emory has the stronger business school, but the basis of the question was the perception of prestige. When applying to graduate schools they are considered peers and equally respected among academic circles, but among commoners Vanderbilt has greater exposure in the south due largely to its membership in the SEC.</p>
<p>Both Vanderbilt and Emory are excellent universities -- each offering great learning and educational opportunities to their respective students. There are obvious perils to making judgments based on so-called "rankings", hearsay and other subjective opinions. The opinions are just that, and no amount of debating will change that. Evaluate what's right for yourself. The only certainty is that generalizations are often the lazy person's avenue. Would you want your personal physician to treat you in the same manner?</p>
<p>I know of students at each school, including graduate level. All are seemingly happy beyond compare. I'm quite familiar with students at each school who gave up acceptances at other colleges/universities (including the Ivy League schools). They chose the school that spoke to them. There's no right and wrong involved here. One's education is simply part of your life experience. The "best" education in the world from the "top" university in the world is wasted if the knowledge is not applied beneficially. Conversely, a student who earned a valued education from an unheard of school who subsequently goes on to apply the knowledge gained to benefit multitudes can be considered a success.</p>
<p>No one cares about the south, thus less southern attributes equals more prestige to people who matter.</p>
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Pay attention, the original poster was asking about prestige IN THE SOUTH. </p>
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<p>This is not accurate either. The South is not less prestigious, there are just more elite colleges in the North. For instance, Washington and Lee would be "more southern" than schools in the North yet would still be seen as a highly prestigious degree. </p>
<p>Arizona state has no southern attributes. But employers will not say "the school lacks southern attributes and is therefore more prestigious". What a terribly ignorant statement.</p>
<p>This is coming from a southerner at Emory. That is truly one of the most idiotic things I have ever read in my life. People who base their opinions regarding the worth or prestige of an institution on its location and the geographical composition (not the achievements) of its student body are morons. The fact is that Vanderbilt and Emory are both great schools, and I don't think people view them much differently. If you want a more southern feel, which is certainly not a bad thing (in fact, I personally like it more), then go to Vanderbilt. If you aren't comfortable in such an environment, go to Emory.</p>
<p>Yeah, really..both are good schools. Fighting over which school "wins" is like debating which is the better color -- red or blue.</p>
<p>orangecountry -- Indeed, I did choose selective data, all be it several pieces of datum. I regret mentioning anything about Vanderbilt in that response because the quote does not even mention Vanderbilt. Basically, I want to inform the OP that Emory is a highly ranked school for more than "just pre-med". Intent was not to compare collegs.</p>
<p>Interesting fact: Without Vanderbilt, Emory would be 1)non-existent 2)a small school in Oxford, GA. Emory was founded when Mr. Candler wrote a letter to the Methodist Church saying that Atlanta would be the ideal place for a new Methodist college. A new Methodist college was needed because Vanderbilt broke ties with the Methodist Church in a legal battle around the early 1900's. So, thank you Vanderbilt. We love you. Let's live happily ever after.</p>
<p>clarification* Emory was not founded per se in the early 1900's, but this is when its campus moved from Oxford to Atlanta.</p>
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<p>Oh yeah, let me tell you: NO BODY AT ALL CARES ABOUT THE SOUTH.</p>
<p>I mean, it's not like anyone wants to move here. Oh wait, yes they do; in fact, it's expect to gain 30 million persons by 2025, and remain the plurality of the nation's population (at about 35-40% roughly). </p>
<p>Of the top 10 MSAs, the ones that have added more population since 2000 are Southern cities (both in raw numbers AND percentage growth). Rustbelt/northern cities have much lower growth numbers (in raw numbers and percentage). Check it out:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.proximityone.com/metros.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.proximityone.com/metros.htm</a></p>
<p>COME ON! Detroit only had a .80% growth rate! What the hell is that?</p>
<p>But, you know what? It's not like businesses like it here. Oh, wait, I forgot... we've stolen many corporations wanting to relocate from the rustbelt region (and we plan to continue this :) ) This is due to the larger workforce (which has many willing to work for slightly less in some areas due to lower cost of living), lower costs for plant and other capital, and loose regulation/taxation. Not to mention, many large southern cities give great sums of money to private enterprises as an incentive and to help with start up costs.</p>