<p>Why don't people apply to harvard a year early (in their junior year) and thus get 2 chances in this supposed "lottery"?</p>
<p>From the FAQ on the admissions website:</p>
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<p>Are there secondary school course requirements for admission?</p>
<h2>There is no single academic path we expect all students to follow, but the strongest applicants take the most rigorous secondary school curricula available to them. An ideal four-year preparatory program includes four years of English, with extensive practice in writing; four years of math; four years of science: biology, chemistry, physics, and an advanced course in one of these subjects; three years of history, including American and European history; and four years of one foreign language.</h2>
<p>Four years can clearly not be covered in three years. A candidate would clearly be at a severe disadvantage if applying in the junior year, and usually, an application will not be accepted.</p>
<p>but it doesn't hurt does it? Cuz those are just the recommended...I don't wanna sound pushy or anything, I was just wondering, I'm a rising senior already anyways...</p>
<p>There is no mention of rules regarding juniors applying on the application information. I highly doubt unless you're a genius, then you would not be eligible to apply anyway.</p>
<p>what xjayz said.</p>
<p>apply as a senior</p>
<p>Because it's not really a lottery. Also, someone who has only 3 years of high school is unlikely to have amassed the outstanding ECs particularly in terms of leadership than would an outstanding student who has spent 4 years in h.s.</p>
<p>Not quite...see the kids accepted EA to harvard and early to other schools on the basis of say, research, are people who have already shown PRIOR to intel, that they have achievement in research. their achievements are done in 11th grade or earlier. </p>
<p>the same rule holds for athletes who have already proven themselves as juniors, etc. of course this is an extreme example, but im sure you can find stories which prove this rarity as a reality. </p>
<p>yet it's def true thatmost ppl in the above positions would themselves opt NOT to apply as juniors.</p>
<p>a nicer scenario to study is the case of someone graduating a year EARLY (as a junior). those people have proven their success in EC's and academics in 3 years, accept its official because they're also graduating. I personally know 2 people locally that were accepted to Harvard as graduating juniors.</p>
<p>Do they keep records of who applies and gets rejected? Like if someone gets rejected as a junior does that lower their chances of getting rejected as a senior? It seems like a lotta paperwork if they do...:)</p>
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<blockquote> <p>Cuz those are just the recommended...<<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>Whenever a college "recommends" you do something for admission, DO IT. Otherwise, trying to get by with less makes your already long odds just that much longer, because there will be thousands of kids who did do all the recommended things -- and then some.</p>
<p>i know a junior that got into UPenn, MIT, and other great colleges</p>
<p>@rccys
i know thousands of seniors who got into ivy leagues, mit, caltech, stanford, and other great colleges.</p>
<p>haha me too. im just saying that its possible to do as a junior (though hard)</p>
<p>if he can get in as a junior, then he can get in as a senior</p>
<p>It's theoretically possible since most (maybe all not sure) ivy league schools do not require a high school diploma for admission.</p>