<p>UMich > NYU</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
<p>UCLA > USC</p>
<p>That is all. :P</p>
<p>(I have 8 friends who are at UCLA, so I’m biased) lol</p>
<p>Not to bash Michigan, but admitting half of their applicants is a freakin’ joke. </p>
<p>NYU > Michigan</p>
<p>That is all. </p>
<p>This is not biased opinion because I’m not going to enroll in either of the schools.</p>
<p>How about NYU = Michigan?</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
<p>“Not so for the rest of NYU, which is seen as a common choice for rich kids who are determined to be in NYC and aren’t qualified to get into Columbia.”</p>
<p>That is so ignorant. Have you ever stopped to consider that NYU might be someone’s first choice school who isn’t applying to Stern or Tisch? I may not be qualified to get into Columbia (didn’t get in Early Decision, so you may have a point there), but I am DEFINITELY not rich and I did get waitlisted at Harvard, so I don’t think it was out of the realm of possibility that I could have been admitted. Anyway, now that I have some perspective on the whole situation, I can see that NYU might in fact be a better choice for me, but I hate this whole spoiled rich kid perception that seems to exist. NYU is a great school and fully deserves to be in the “top universities” category.</p>
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It comes from the fact that NYU has a very high COA and very low financial aid. However, it does not seem to be accurate, as NYU has the highest student debt of any non-profit college/university (and 3rd when counting for-profits). If so many students are going into debt, then that means that they can’t pay for it, and thus are not rich. So I agree, the idea that NYU is full of rich kids does seem false.</p>
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No school really “deserves” to be in it, as it is an ultimately arbitrary designation. Try not to let it bother you.</p>
<p>I think both schools are good in their own right. To be honest, stats and numbers do not define how smart the students are at each school. Even if you end up at a regular state or city college, you will do fine if you work hard, do research, talk to your professors, make connections, and put yourself out there in the “real world”. </p>
<p>Everyone needs to stop throwing around SAT numbers and scores because numbers do not measure intelligence and capabilities in various topics. Sometimes it’s the average scorer on the standardized tests who ends up as the CEO of the next big company. That’s what I learned when I was applying for colleges- that while rankings are important, they aren’t everything. </p>
<p>Both UMich and NYU are amazing schools and if you make the most out of your education and opportunities at either school, you will do wonderfully. Unless you slack off and do absolutely nothing, both schools will give you a solid and powerful advantage when you graduate.</p>
<p>Scenario One:
“I went to Michigan.”
“Wow, you must be really smart! What did you study?”
“Economics with a minor in (blah blah)”</p>
<p>Scenario Two:
“I went to NYU”
“Cool. I love NYC! Did you attend Stern?”
“No I studied…wait? Where are you going?!?”</p>
<p>^LOL at scenario 2, and how accurate it is.</p>
<p>^ I hope you don’t start dissing other NYU colleges when you arrive there.</p>
<p>I don’t have anything against the other NYU colleges, but I’m just saying that’s the general perception of NYU from those outside academia.</p>
<p>^ You’re just the kind of intellectual snob I despise.</p>
<p>I’m in LSP; so would you show any prejudice towards me? Would I do the same to you just because I’m in Mensa. No, get over it. Just chill out and don’t be so uptight and judicious.</p>
<p>I said I have nothing against the other NYU colleges… we all know NYU is overall one of the top universities in the world, in all categories and subjects. I was merely noting the fact that outside academia, scenario 2 is a, unfortunately, prevalent case. And by the way, not to sound pretentious, but judicious is a compliment.</p>
<p>boom boom pretentious stern kidz comin everybody hide!</p>
<p>Lol anybody who thinks someone is really smart because he or she attends UMich must be an idiot or have no idea what “really smart” means. Do they have some excellent students? Sure. On average? Just decent students with decent grades but not exactly super elites. And that applies to NYU also, to be fair.</p>
<p>Also, NYU is most famous for its excellent graduate school program including Stern. Being a Stern undergraduate is nothing to brag about, let alone look down upon other peers. I know from my personal experience that Stern undergraduate program is pretty much overrated (They do require higher standards, but not by much as some people would think) and if you think people will somehow perceive all the undergraduate departments of NYU differently according to their selectivity level, well then it’s time to wake up from your sweet little dream.</p>
<p>I hate to make blanket judgments like this, but NYU (yes, including Stern), is to some degree an Ivy-reject school. Many great schools can fall into this category (e.g. Tufts, Brandeis, USC, Michigan, etc.). As such, NYU is filled with excellent students, as is any great school. Sure there will be the apathetic NYC-enthralled rich girl here only to party, or the dumb guy riding on the trust fund his dad set up for him, but for the very most part the students here are intelligent and take their work seriously. I laugh at the pedestal that Sternies (and CC to be fair), put themselves on. Sure it’s up with the best for what it does and they do have marginally higher admissions standards but it’s not as if it’s Harvard and the rest of NYU is some community college.</p>
<p>Where I’m from, people are very impressed that I go to NYU. I’ve not once been asked as a follow-up question whether I’m in Stern or not.</p>
<p>The USNWR rating is a joke. Everyone knows that NYU omits the LSP kids from the stats, so it is meaningless.</p>
<p>Do we really? I thought they were kept in, and I thought schools didn’t individually report their stats, I thought the rankings were the result of independent audits. Maybe I’m being too naive.</p>
<p>Independent audits? Hahahaha…</p>
<p>There’s a reason nobody in academia pays attention to USNWR rankings. Their methodology is bunk and their data is suspect at best.</p>
<p>U Chicago.</p>