I’ve been accepted to UCSC, and they have a “Conditions of Admission” that lists a number of terms you must agree to fulfill, or your acceptance will be subject to be cancelled. (Here is a link http://admissions.ucsc.edu/apply/f16-conditions-transfer.pdf)
I have a problem because I am not doing well in a course, Calculus 1. My major is Business Management Economics, and under their “Major Preparation Selection Criteria,” my Calc 1 course satisfies one of their requirements for my major. I don’t want to continue with this course if I feel I will fail because my acceptance will automatically be cancelled (I’m pretty sure?). I thought my better option would be to drop (withdraw from) it. However, i’m worried that if I do so then I’ll be booted out too.
There’s a passage that says:
“While it is not required for selection, junior-level transfer students are strongly encouraged to have completed lower-division mathematics and statistics courses required for their intended economics major prior to enrolling at UCSC.”
That kind of led me to believe that it wasn’t necessary to complete Calc 1 before transfer. But then I feel like i’m breaking the condition of admission, so… i’m kind of confused. (I think i’m highly confused by wording so to have this reviewed by others would be highly appreciated!!)
I’ve done some research on this website, it seems summer courses can’t be used to fulfill this either? Unless approved so by the school. I was hoping for that too, but i’m not sure if it’s possible to begin with.
I’ve emailed admissions and plan to call them when they’re open, but I was hoping to get other feedback and possible experiences. Please help if you can, thank you!
If you are reasonably certain you are going to fail the class anyway, a W and a rescindence is better than an F with a rescindence.
At least with the W you still have the chance of them taking you. With an F there is no chance whatsoever.
There’s a good chance they will cancel your acceptance of you drop the course but they will for sure if you get a D or an F. Also summer courses aren’t allowed but there’s a possibility they will let you work something out. Admissions people will be able to tell you which is worse but is there any way you can convince your prof to give you a low C for extra credit or take it pass/fail? UCSC is pretty strict with their conditions of admission.
@falltransfer1 yes that’s true, last day to drop with a W is this Saturday… right after my Calc test on Wed that i’m quite sure i’ll do poorly. The thing is, my prof says things sometimes like “if you get an A on the final and the last few exams, you’ll get an A even if you did poorly on the other ones” so it sounds like a glimmer of hope, but I don’t think it’s worth the low chance. 
I probably have to drop
So Calc is one of the “major reqs,” so do you know that if you are missing one of the major req’s, is it still possible to transfer? I guess that’s the main question
Thank you so much btw
@lukealaly I’m hopeful they’d let me work something out, like take it during summer? Or take it after I transfer into the school? You kindof sound like you may have some experience with UCSC? It’d really help if I could have your opinion in that case 
I hear UCSC doesn’t accept you into your major right away, they just accept you into school. And then they let you declare it after the first quarter… that makes me feel like I can get in, and take it in the first quarter? But then i’m pretty sure that’s breaking their conditions of admission
I don’t know if they are just as strict as the TAG req’s, bc I also didnt qualify for that bc I hadn’t taken Econ 2 prior to applyig for TAG (before Fall). I got the impression that they are though.
Thanks a bunch!!
^ Take what I say with a grain of salt but I tagged the school and spent a lot of time with the rep figuring out what I could or couldn’t do. He told me that they don’t let you make up the class in the summer but I’ve heard of people getting conditional permission from A&R. What I do know though is that if ou drop or get a W they will probably rescind your admission. The only way to know for sure is to call them, they’ve been really helpful for me.
As for declaring a major I think that’s the case with other UCs too, you don’t declare a major until you’re there, but even if the class isn’t required for your major they still look down really hard on not passing anything. A friend of mine got his admission rescinded because he flunked one of his minor electives that had nothing to do with his major. Call them asap, good luck!
No problem.
Good luck on your Calc test tomorrow, btw.
@Lukelayle yess, so I’ve spoken to the lady at Admissions Office and she said without a major requirement, I will for sure have my acceptance revoked. I remember her saying like, if I did take it during Summer, MAYBE maybe they could offer to take me in winter quarter? No one can say for sure. She said to file a “Schedule Change/Grade Issue” b/c that’s the only way someone will evaluate my records and come up with a decision.
However, I spoke to the representative of UCSC for my particular cc, and she says even if I am not sure of dropping or if I will fail, file the form and write my concern in the comment section, and make the offer to see if I can take it during the Summer, or if they can give any other alternatives.
In your experience, do you know how those people got conditional permission to take summer classes? That would be really helpful, and at the least, enlightening.
At this point, since my deadline to withdraw is Saturday… I feel like the better option may be to drop? I’ve been stressed about making a decision. I feel like they won’t even look at me if I fail.
Based on the conditions of admission, and the FAQ’s they have on the website – if you have a failed course, acceptance will be subject to IMMEDIATE termination. If you drop a course, the results are unknown.
^ (in theory)
What do you think? D:
((Sorry for such a long passage))
@mmeow458,
I have a friend at UCI that had his CoA modified to include a summer class. He is low income and had to take an incomplete to take care of a younger family member who broke a leg during his final semester. UCI wouldn’t accept an outright withdrawal but allowed the incomplete to be made up during the summer given his circumstances. They didn’t ask for additional proof, but logically getting approved for an incomplete requires some sort of initial proof anyway. He alternatively was offered to take the equivalent course at UCI (but not the other UCs) over the summer but decided against it due to financial reasons.
That said, I think you have an answer to your question:
Whether you are dropping or not passing, the fact is both will lead you short of the major requirements and you will get revoked based on the comments of the UCSC rep (which trumps your CCC rep). Your only option is to file that request (as urgent given your deadline) and hope you get a response prior to Saturday.
IMHO, only a definitive response directly from UCSC saying that it’s okay to drop the course will prevent a rescind in the event you drop.
@mmeow458 yea the only person I know who was able to get in with a summer class had an incomplete due to a death in the family. Everyone else I know who dropped or failed their requirements had admission revoked. Like @SDGoldenBear said I don’t think you stand a good chance dropping the class. File the paperwork like the admissions lady said and try like hell for a C- in your class. I would only drop if you’re 100% sure you can’t pass the class.