Will My Acceptance Be Revoked?

Applying to College
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<p>Since the house was only one block from school, it may have been in a drug-free zone, which means the legal punishment is harsh. For all we know (and we don't know a lot), the police agreed to let the school handle it as long as there were consequences for the students. </p>

<p>Also, it's not clear whether this is a public or a private school. If private, they can expel a student for much less -- and often do. Public schools tend to be more lenient.</p>

<p>This problem isn't going to disappear by ignoring it.</p>

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<p>ok, first of all, if u were smoking or smoking weed at a catholic school, u would be kicked out immediately, and i know cuz i attend a catholic school. for public schools i don't know. anyways, if u have already been expelled, and gone to another high school to finish, and receive a diploma, then yur fine. u just need to report to yur university why u changed schools and why u were expelled, really no big deal, unless the university of course does not accept that u were smoking. but don't go calling them and ask if it was ok to be smoking, thats stupid.</p>

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<p>JeepMOM, are you the one smoking? I never said that smoking anything on school property was anywhere hear okay.</p>

<p>@ citygirlsmom, by "kid" I mean someone who is not legally an adult (I'm assuming, though the OP may already be 18, either way, he's still only in HS). Also, I took the word "kid" directly from JeepMOM's post anyway.</p>

<p>@ yourworld, dude, chill out, there are tons of posters on CC with infinitely worse grammar than this guy; really, the only problem is some missing commas. Besides, I could easily say that you can't even quote properly.</p>

<p>My advice, fight the expulsion tooth and nail, but prepare for the worst, I have no idea if any half decent schools are even taking apps this late, but at the least you have a CC to fall back on. Too bad you don't live in Santa Cruz, here it's listed as "lowest priority" for cops. Oh, and btw, just to make my position clearer, I neither smoke nor particularly approve that much of it.</p>

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<p>If you are supposed to be IN SCHOOL and then LEAVE to go smoke guess that schoo considers it smoking at school, and most schools, when you enroll gives you a nice little handbook with all the rules, etc</p>

<p>So it wasn't like this kid didn't know it was wrong, didn't know he was talking a huge risk, didn't know the consequences</p>

<p>If I were his parents, egad</p>

<p>Cops and school administrators- two different groups</p>

<p>And he was caught smoking, not just wandering around a back yard</p>

<p>Wonder what grandma thinks- her embarrasment and property matter little to these young men</p>

<p>I do hope you apologized, Socal for breaking into her house to do some weed, potentially getting HER in trouble</p>

<p>Yes, in some states the owner of the house can get in trouble, so she was between a rock and a hardplace- her house, their drugs... does she say it was okay for them to use her house during the day, or to deny she gave them permission, to protect herself</p>

<p>These two young men had so little respect for the Mother of the friend's parents, that itself is pathetic</p>

<p>Interesting that OP didn't talk about using the Grandma's house like that was important, he made excuses for that....using an elderly woman's house to get stoned during school- how cruel</p>

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<p>Why are you rambling on about how wrong it is or how he screwed up? I'm pretty sure he already knows that he screwed up, all he want to know from this this thread is whether this will cause his acceptance to be revoked. It's not like anybody is even arguing with you :/</p>

<p>I seriously doubt the OP cares how strangers over the internet morally view his decisions.</p>

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<p>I don't think so, he wasn't even honest here initially</p>

<p>And I don't much care what he thinks of my views</p>

<p>As for the "rambling" others beside the OP read these posts, and it is more about the young man's college hopes, it is about a family, and people need to see that their stupid actions effect many other people, besides themselves, that is how grownups look at things</p>

<p>We don't just look at an event in a vacumm, nothing happens in a vacumm, and if I was Grandma, I would be furious, embarrased and would lose total trust for my grandson</p>

<p>So ignore my rambling, and the OP can as well, he seems to be a bit of place where he is just thinking about himself anyway</p>

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<p>"In my neighborhood, the cops wait around corners just to catch people doing rolling stops, I am not stupid enough to do rolling stops in my neighboorhood"</p>

<p>You must live in a nice neighborhood, if the cops spend their time catching minuscule traffic violations.</p>

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<p>eh, its just a few, but they are sneaky and it may only be once or twice a month, but you know, it could be that one time where you do the california roll and there they are, so I just dont' take any chances, do the 1 2 3 count</p>

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<p>Because NO teenager EVER skipped class in high school to go smoke pot during the 60's/70's. </p>

<p>Cmon! You can't reprimand this one teenager when probably 70% of the teenage population is also doing it, or at least have done it.
Why don't you parents actually walk through the public schools these days, and realize that it's a different world than what you think. Completely different. If anything, marijuana is the innocent stuff. </p>

<p>I dont approve of doing drugs myself, but for a kid to be expelled from school for this minor charge is insane.</p>

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<p>:? I can understand how he didn't elaborate on where he was doing drugs (and it wasn't relevant to his question at all anyway) considering all the flaming he's getting.</p>

<p>I just don't like how a lot of people spend time bashing and flaming this guy, especially when he isn't even here to defend himself.</p>

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<p>He was off campus in somebody's house during school hours</p>

<p>If he wanted some real answers about the consequences, he needs to be truthful, why be evasive here, no one knows him</p>

<p>As for the expulsion, it is the school he is at and their rules, each school is different </p>

<p>As for flaming, gee, he got kicked out of school, may have some serious issues with his college acceptance, and we should worry about some strangers calling him on his behavior?</p>

<p>If he was 21, and went to some friends Grandma's house to get drunk, that would be all okay with you? </p>

<p>This isn't all about the OP, its not about some kid sitting in the park with a joint on the weekend, this was different, this was during school, leaving campus, in someone else house, involving the police, etc.</p>

<p>And if this was a private school, they can pretty much do what they want</p>

<p>I guess I am concerned about the people he could have hurt as well as the OP</p>

<p>And an FYI, many schools don't want seniors to totally flake off and do this kind of stuff right at the end of the year, so often they are stricter than they might be to set an example to others</p>

<p>My D just had a meeting at school, saying that during all school events, they will be watching very closely and if the kids break any serious rules, the consequences will be just as serious</p>

<p>I don't think pot should be illegal, for those over 21....and I don't have much of a problem with pot itself, however, there is something called brains, and if you don't use them, then you deal with the consequences</p>

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<p>Yes, of course, I'd want tons of random strangers to know intimate details about my life >.>. All he asked is, if I was expelled for smoking pot and got my diploma at another school, would my college rescind me? You really don't need any more information, and it's not like the answer would get anymore accurate with more information. Nobody can provide "real answers" except for the college.</p>

<p>Everything you could possibly do affects someone else, but this thread is not about that someone else, it's about this one single person. </p>

<p>"he got kicked out of school, may have some serious issues with his college acceptance, and we should worry about some strangers calling him on his behavior?"</p>

<p>I really don't care, I don't think that flaming and inserting a ton of your own moral beliefs on what is a simple question is appropriate, especially given that there are plenty of stupider things he could have done and that it's not even that uncommon. I know a lot of kids who come to school stoned (not just near school property) and some teachers know and don't particularly care. Oh, and you make such a big deal about "grandma's house", how is that any different than if it had been at his own (parents') house? </p>

<p>Btw, they were just in her yard and drunk =/= stoned.</p>

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<p>Her yard is her property, and she could have gotten in some trouble, but guess you don't much care about Grandma</p>

<p>Because she could have gotten in some trouble, she most likely might have had to talk to the police, explain it to neighbors, been really hurt and embarrassed and felt shame by what her own grandchild did, that is why I care about others besides just the poster</p>

<p>Put it this way then, initially the poster says it was during school and he was smoking, then he tells us it was during school at some body's house, not his nor his friends house, and they went onto her private property, </p>

<p>As an outsider, remember, outsiders ie the Admissions people at his college, will be deciding his fate and wonder themselves about the expulsion/change of schools in the same city with just a few weeks to go before graduation</p>

<p>So, red flags are being raised in the admission's people's faces, and if the OP tries to weasel his way around what will most likely come out, he will have to deal with the consequences</p>

<p>Picture this explantion to the Admission's People </p>

<p>Well, see, I left school to go smoke, and went into my friend's grandma's house's yard to get high, and the neighbor called the cops and I got kicked out of school</p>

<p>If I, a stranger, an adult, reads into this, then you can bet the admissions people will as well</p>

<p>And this site isn't just to help this one OP, many others read threads and gleen information, those people can see what can happen if you do break rules, and that sometimes you can get away with it, but sometimes, you do get busted and it can be pretty bad when you do</p>

<p>So, this isn't just to help this poster, who needs to talk to the schools involved, even anonymously, to see what the possibilities are</p>

<p>And remember, the OPs school is not your school, and that is just the way it is</p>

<p>My Ds school, if they hear about teen parties, whatever kind, calls the parents to check that we know about it, don't know many other schools that do that</p>

<p>My Ds school, we had kids smoking cigarettes during lunch a block from school, get suspended</p>

<p>Each school is different and you deal with their rules, how your school handles things is irrelevant</p>

<p>And again, going to smoke at somebody's house like that shows a total lack of respect and judgement, beyond the pot</p>

<p>If you can't see the difference, and the potential liability for her, then you need to look a bit more at other people and how one's behavior can effect them</p>

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<p>I never said that I thought the OP's school is like my school, I was merely using it as an example that not all kids smoking pot results in disaster.
And I like how you respond to my mentioning something about my school by saying that "the OPs school is not your school" then talk about your daughters school for far longer than I did.</p>

<p>"As this site isn't just to help this one OP, many others read threads and gleen information"</p>

<p>Then, like I said, extra info really isn't necessary because no one is going to have the exact same situation.</p>

<p>And I never said that the grandma wasn't affected negatively, I just said that in the context of this thread, it doesn't matter to either the OP or the people reading this thread.</p>

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<p>An attempt at a practical answer to the original question--I think the OP will be best off going to the UW ASAP and seeing what the policies are for this situation. My guess is that it is likely the UW would find out anyway, so the best chance for saving the situation may be to first consult with the GC and attorney, but then go forward and address it with UW; maybe enter a rehab program (the court might order that anyway); and maybe ask if he can keep the admission but not matriculate for a few quarters, but instead be on probation, during which time he is employed and has clean drug tests. I think UW can learn about this offense because they apparently review the senior year records. Per the Seattle PI, last year, UW revoked about 23 kids' admission in the summer before their intended entrance, just for "severe senioritis"---badly falling grades on the second semester transcript. It is hard to imagine that an expulsion would not be noted on the transcript. If the OP attends a private school, the school may directly inform the UW of the arrest/expulsion. In addition, some counties in WA have court cases on the web, searchable. If the OP is over 18, voila, the screeners can run the names of those kids with expulsions on their final transcripts--how many can there be?</p>

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<p>My point was that while at some schools you can get away with pot, at others it is a big deal, so it matters not if at one school you can share a joint with the staff, while at another chewing gum can get you suspension, you need to deal with the school you are at, and that some schools are even stricter than the OPs, so if you are in a school like that, don't be surprised if the consequences are severe</p>

<p>that being said, no conversation like this is in a bubble</p>

<p>what, lets just say this then</p>

<p>OP- you school is just too strict, at my school it would have been nothing, and that helps in what way, exactlly?</p>

<p>My comments were very relevant to his situation, which is not just the expulsion, the OP needs to know that beyond the expulsion, he could have damaged someone's life and home, and other people, obviouslly the police and the school realize that</p>

<p>Like I said, pot, eh, no reall biggy for adult</p>

<p>We have no real information in order to help him, what did his GC say, what about his parents, what is going to be on his transcript in the disciplary section, did the police write any thing up, how old is he, what kind of school is he getting his diploma from, what about his GPA, does that matter to the college, is he passing all his classes, if he took AP's will those classes count for college if he doesn't take the final, what will grades be from the new school</p>

<p>What did his old school tell him would be reported when the final transcript is sent? That is the most important question</p>

<p>As for the moral issues I raised, if one other kid feels the urge to leave school, and break a few laws, and take that chance, but instead change their mind and say, you know, I don't want to get kicked out with a week to go, and be mature enough to at least make that correct decision to not be foolhardy when they are so close, seeing this kind of thing does really happen, than maybe someone will be stopped from risking their future</p>

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<p>citygirlsmom, why are you making this such a big issue?</p>

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<p>I'm not quite through with reading the responses, but half-way through page three people keep asking whether he attends a publicor private school. He has implied that he attends a public school by the suggestion that he might finish the year "at a private school."</p>

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<p>It really doesn't matter what people here think of smoking pot, or whether the school was too harsh. The only important facts are that the OP was expelled for smoking pot one block from school (and believe me, this distance is essential to the situation) when he should have been in class. The police were involved. The question is: Can his admission be revoked? Absolutely. Will it then? The OP won't know until he confronts the university.</p>

<p>I suggest the following action. First, I suggest fighting the expulsion if it is a public high school. Proper remorse would go a long way here. Maybe a promise of extensive community service for the summer might help? If that doesn't work, find out whether the HS will notify the university about the expulsion. (My guess is yes, whether in writing or by sending the transcript with the expulsion noted.) If yes, then the OP should CALL the admissions office ASAP to explain the situation, again with proper remorse. ("It's the most stupid thing I've done in my life.") I'm sure the lawyer will recommend immediate rehab, and if so, the OP should explain to the university that he is entering it. Be ready to offer your own plan of probation and a year's deferral (I really liked that suggestion above) before they have a chance to review your file. It shows that you are ready to take the punishment.</p>

<p>The worst things the OP can say are: "Everyone does it" and "Weed is no big deal" and "My lawyer wants me to check into rehab" and "My school was too harsh." Take responsibility for your actions. Blaming other people or the system is a sign of immaturity.</p>

<p>Good luck, OP.</p>

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<p>Following these posts, I must say I agree with Charisma and the post above. Those posts are more constructive to the OP's current situation.</p>

<p>Citygirlsmom is blowing the issue way out of proportion - this thread is not to discuss the moral implications of smoking pot nor for posters to preach at the OP.</p>