<p>I got the acceptance notifications from UCI and UCSD, both being my ideal choices. It's all great and I felt good about getting into these schools.</p>
<p>But here is the problem... The first semester after high school, I briefly attended a local community college and failed out miserably. From what I remember, I withdrew from all the classes. (This is what I remember, for all I know I might have gotten F's or W's). </p>
<p>During the application process, this honestly NEVER crossed my mind. It was a pretty turbulent time in my life and it's like everything was a blur. I did great at my new school, although I still had somewhat of a rough start. And so in the end, getting into UCI/UCSD wasn't a problem.</p>
<p>But now that I went through the process of registering, I realize that both of these schools want ALL the information regarding the schools that I have attended. I honestly feel HORRIBLE about having made the mistake of not reporting my original CC. I would actually call the admissions offices of UCI/UCSD and tell them about it and even tell them to re-do my application if that's what they feel like doing.</p>
<p>But before I pull the trigger, I'm just wondering what you guys think will happen. =[</p>
<p>I'm not a bad guy and I never meant to lie. And if I can make up for it now, I really would. Do the admissions people have a heart that will help them understand? Or shall I begin cursing my own stupidity?</p>
<p>Before you call them there are 2 questions.</p>
<p>Has it been 2 years since you withdrawl/failed out of those classes? </p>
<p>If it has you might be able to get those classes academically renewed and if that is the case you would still need to report them but i doubt they will effect you at all if you tell them you overlooked the need to report academically renewed classes</p>
<p>This is purely a matter of ethics vs. utility. </p>
<p>If you want to continue your education at a UC beginning this fall you will be almost undoubtedly squandering your chance by telling them considering they won’t find out if they haven’t by now and will be very suspect to your admission of guilt after they’ve sent you admittance letters. However, it is dishonest and may weigh on your conscious to a large or small extent depending on who you are. </p>
<p>However, if you are willing to wait another year, apply to the UCs again and include the information next year, then tell them the truth and apply next year with all information included hoping you will still gain admission for Fall '11. </p>
<p>It’s entirely up to you. You’re not really risking much either way, other than whatever modicum of moral integrity you may hold yourself against. </p>
<p>thelongshot you sure? i’m postive they do a quick search of your school records when they receive your final transcript for other schools/C.C you’ve attended.</p>
<p>All they really have to do is punch in your S.S and i believe there a shared database among all the C.C’s</p>
<p>I DO NOT think they will rescind your admission. But obviously they have no idea you attended that other school, so maybe you just shouldn’t send them that transcript. It might not be the most honest thing, but if there’s a good chance they’ll rescind (I don’t think so), I’d do it.</p>
<p>@peterr - as much as I may advocate ethical action, that’s not what happens. They check while they’re reviewing your admission, if they don’t find out by that point they won’t. The only method to find out is through the National Student Clearinghouse. In which the school needs a full name, birth date and school that they think you may have attended. There is no holistic database that identified students’ entire academic histories. </p>
<p>@Empathy - I unfortunately agree. I don’t advocate people who cheat and lie to get to the top but in this case you have earned admittance and a dark spot on your life shouldn’t change that. Without sparking some giant debate here I say do what you feel is right but look at my post above about ethics vs. utility. The only risk is what you feel on the matter at this point.</p>
<p>Logistically, universal school records would be a nightmare. Besides, have you ever tried transferring units from 1 CC to another – it’s hell. Should this system exist, it wouldn’t be that hard.</p>
<p>How would they know unless they audit you? You seriously think UC’s are using taxpayer dollars to run background checks on thirty thousand students? I doubt they could even afford something like that. The only way they would ever know you went anywhere is if you reported it, and gave permission to your previous school to share that intellectual property. Anyone who tells you that there are people hired by the state of California to snoop around your academic history is lying. They assume you are telling the truth, as you should be. However, if there are inconsistencies like massive student loans, defaults, unexplained gaps, or even if you are chosen at random, they do audit something like two percent of the applicant pool to verify everything in your application. So, calm the eff down and proceed with giving them whatever they ask you for. If they don’t specifically ask you for the transcripts from that other school, why submit them? If eventually they do, simply give them what they ask for.</p>
<p>@lintij
Thanks for calming me down a bit, haha. Under the “MySchools” tab at the UCI website, they’re only listing my current CC and my old high school.</p>
<p>I guess this really is a matter of my personal integrity though, but thank you for your opinion.</p>
<p>@peterr</p>
<p>Technically, two of the classes out of four should be renewed. The third was a math and I fulfilled my math requirement through another course. The fourth was Philosophy… If really needed, I could modify my summer schedule to take it. So even if I told them, I guess I’d only be taking in one F (still very bad)? What bothers me is that I don’t want them to think I did it out of dishonesty… Sigh.</p>
<p>I think you misunderstood what i ment by academic renewal. </p>
<p>It’s a policy C.C have that if it’s been 2 years since you took those classes and you would like to have them purged from your records per say. They will be open to it.</p>
<p>So if you don’t need the units from that semester. Academic Renewal will wipe out the entire semester if it’s been 2 or more years since you took the class. It will still show up on transcript but won’t count against you</p>
<p>Oh wow, so that’s even better than what I was referring to, right? I don’t need ANYTHING from that school to fulfill my unit/pre-req requirements.</p>
<p>Since it’s been more than two years, what do you think I should do?</p>
<p>Students who have a 2.5 grade point average (GPA) in their last fifteen (15) units, or a 2.0 GPA in their last thirty (30) units completed at an accredited college or university, may petition to have up to eighteen (18) units of “D” or “F” grades removed from cumulative GPA consideration, provided such coursework was completed two years prior to the effective date of the petition. Graduation honors and awards are based on the full cumulative GPA. Academic renewal is irreversible.</p>
<p>I had NO idea! I have a 6 year old “F” that brings my GPA down to a 3.7 instead of a 3.9. I’m calling my old CC tomorrow. I wish I’d known this before I applied and reported the lower GPA!</p>