<p>Alright, let's see</p>
<p>Three kids from the same school, all applied ED, please give chances for each.</p>
<p>School=extremely competitive, no rank
Course Load = more or less the same
EC's = for argument's sake let's say they're bout the same</p>
<p>1st student</p>
<p>1500 SAT 750M 750V
97 GPA
710 IIC 700 Writing 690 Physics</p>
<p>2nd Student
1340 SAT 680 M 660V
93 GPA
730 IIC 680 Writing 630 Chem</p>
<p>3rd Student
1450 760M 690V
94 GPA
680 IIC 730 Writing 670 Physics 660 Spanish</p>
<p>What do you guys think the chances are?</p>
<p>For your school being extremely competitive, it's producing awfully low Physics and IIC scores in applicants aiming for such a great school. The IIC scores should be at least 750+, and the Physics/Chem scores should be significantly higher.</p>
<p>The second person definitely won't get in unless they have a major hook. </p>
<p>The first person has a decent shot, but the borderline 700 SAT II scores don't say that much about his academic achievements. Evidence of a passion for learning and an aptitude in higher order thinking will need to be provided in this case, if this student wants to make it in on his academics. In the absence of a strong hook, this person seems okay, and admissible, but not great. I wish I knew how the reccomendations would be for him, since then I could give you a much better idea.</p>
<p>Again, the same comments apply for the 3rd student, except they will need to show the passion for learning more than the first student will, since the first student's statistics are somewhat more admissible.</p>
<p>I'm sorry, if you're just looking at your cases on the base of numbers, I wouldn't really expect very much here. If I had more information, I could give you a better idea, but like this, your cases seem very weak.</p>
<p>Joey</p>
<p>yeah you bring up a valid point. How would u say u prepped for SAT IIs? I mean, our school's average SAT score is like 1380, but everyones II's border low 700's to high 600's. I myself really didn't study much for them. I know the other applicants didnt either. I dont know how much II's can gauge intelligence because anyone who studies for a few days straight is capable of scoring high. Perhaps our instructors didn't cover all the material, or perhaps we just didn't absorb it? SAT's are different. You can either study for months to score high, or just be smart. I dun really know which is a better indicator, but I do know that my II's suck, despite my school's status.</p>
<p>Well, for example, many of the top students at my school get 800's on each test. As one of the upper eschelon students in my school, I have 3 800's and 1 790 on the SAT II's. My SAT I's are not quite as impressive, but they are still decent.</p>
<p>I would say I studied for the corresponding AP in the case of US History (790), I took Writing separately (prepared significantly, but I'm a good writer), Math IIC I was prepared for, and Physics I had to review very comprehensively for, because I was in the one Honors class that covered less than every other class -_-.</p>
<p>Colleges do look for good I's and II's. They don't want to admit it, but there is something undeniably impressive about the student that is able to do very very well on all of the tests. I'm not saying it's a gauge of anything, but I'm just saying the admissions officers do value the scores.</p>
<p>Joey</p>
<p>Ah, perhaps my school doesn't prepare us fully, as there are only 2 AP classes available, which you can only take in Senior year. Actually now that I think about it, that's the reason.</p>