Word of Advice for Indiana

<p>(don’t know anything about KSoB, sorry.)</p>

<p>IU mainly looks at SAT/ACT, GPA, then the classes you take. Having a 3.93 GPA in high school is worthless to IU if you’re SAT scores aren’t astounding when it comes to scholarships (even if you get the honors diploma and take all honors classes).</p>

<p>When I applied to IU–even before then-I worried about whether or not I would get in to the school. I had an okay high school career. I nearly failed biology and Algebra I. I took one AP course my senior year and only took 2 honors courses. My record was completely plain and even boring compared to the others students I knew applying to IU. My final CPA was 3.4 (by pure fear of not getting into college) and I was <em>just</em> in the upper half of my class. But I got into IU. Keep your expectations real and realize that IU practices rolling admissions…chances are you will be accepted.
If you’re worried you won’t get into Kelley, relax. University Division is a great place to start and you won’t burn out. It is not less respected than direct admit to Kelley, just a different way to get there.
I would say, apply to IU unless you don’t really want to go there (it is in the middle of nowhere) or have a GPA below 2.5. They accept a wide range of intelligences so don’t worry if you’re only good at one or two things.</p>

<p>@collegeready99: Absolutely not! That’s a great transcript!</p>

<p>I had a few D’s sadly, made them up with As and Bs. I had a bad GPA if you consider sub 3 range. Upward trend, so if you have low grades and worked hard in the end of Hs, apply early and you will be fine. Every college is going to say achieve X but will settle for Z.</p>

<p>Tired, and I know that this is written terrible.</p>

<p>they made iu harder to get into this year so sub 3.0 gpa WILL NOT WORK for iu anymore.</p>

<p>when i appliedto iu i had a 3.35 gpa and my ACT was 29. i was deferred, waitlisted, and finally got in.</p>

<p>I was surprised this year at the number of my peers who didn’t get into IU with what I saw as sure-thing gpas and SATs. One in particular I know had high 1600 sat and low-mid 3 gpa and didn’t get in. That being said, they will look at weighted GPA exclusively, so if your school weights and you took advantage of that, you’re in pretty good shape.</p>

<p>My daughternis just finishing her IU app. No essay?</p>

<p>I was wondering the same. I completed the online portion of the application and I do not see any mention of essays. Weird.</p>

<p>IU admission is numbers driven. The reason you can’t find an essay question is because there is none. Students with marginal test scores or gpas can send in a writing sample to help bolster their case, but people with strong numbers simply do not need to worry about doing an essay for admission to IU. Same goes with recommendations. </p>

<p>However, if you are admitted with strong numbers, you will receive an SSA (Supplemental Scholarship Application) to fill out. You will need to do some essays for this and get teacher recs then.</p>

<p>What is the SSA for? Is that different from the automatic scholarships?</p>

<p>I misspoke. SSA stands for Selective Scholarship Application. Here’s a link that explains the program: [Selective</a> Scholarships: Selective Scholarships: Office of Scholarships: Indiana University Bloomington](<a href=“Selective Scholarship Application: Future Scholars: Office of Scholarships: Indiana University Bloomington”>Selective Scholarship Application: Future Scholars: Office of Scholarships: Indiana University Bloomington)</p>

<p>And, yes, this is separate and distinct from the automatic scholarships.</p>

<p>I have a freshman-junior gpa of 3.46 and an SAT score of 1310.
I am very involved in community service and leadership positions.
Do i have a chance?
And is it more competitive to get into the pre-med program?</p>

<p>You’re in and no.</p>

<p>The following link has the pre-med info:</p>

<p>[Preparing</a> for a Career in Medicine - Health Professions and Prelaw Center - Indiana University - University Division](<a href=“http://www.hpplc.indiana.edu/medicine/med-prep.shtml]Preparing”>http://www.hpplc.indiana.edu/medicine/med-prep.shtml)</p>

<p>Competitive stats include:</p>

<p>College GPA>3.6
MCAT>31
Meaningful EC’s</p>

<p>See the pre-med forum for more info.</p>

<p>I’m new to this site and don’t want to seem kind of stupid with this stuff, but could anybody hear tell me some basics about IU’s Jacobs School of Music? I’m pretty sure I could get into IU itself. (But just in case, I’ll let you guys look over my stats)</p>

<p>Status: Junior
GPA: Above 3.5 (I don’t want to come across as one of those guys that touts his own horn, so I’ll just say that. I’m sure 3.5 is good enough, right?)
ACT: 26
SAT: Haven’t taken. Considering it, but would it be fine if I don’t?
Honors/AP: I have taken all the Honors and AP classes my school offers, but they don’t offer many.</p>

<p>I think overall I’m fine as far as IU goes, but realistically, what about Jacobs School of Music? Kind of silly to ask because you guys can’t hear me play right now and be the judge. But I’ve gotten 1st chair at local band clinics, 1st chair in my high school band (although it’s about 40 people in the band, not competitive at all), and I placed 19th in 2010 for the 2011 Mississippi Lions Band. Only 6 people made the band, but it was 19 out of 50 alto sax players (supposed to be the top 50 in the state). So I guess, is Jacobs insanely hard or pretty okay for someone who tries to excel in music? Thanks for taking the time to look over my questions. Please respond. :D</p>

<p>saxguy,
Jacobs is a very competitive music program. This is not the place for the average player. You must be at least above average to amazing to get accepted to Jacobs. This is not to say that you are not above average, but how do you stack up against students from other states? Have you been to any summer festivals or done any national competitions to get a feel for where you stand? If you live locally, you can always request a sample lesson and ask them if they think you are Jacobs material. </p>

<p>One other important thing to consider is that for in state students, Jacobs is a good deal. As an OOS student , Jacobs is very expensive. Yes, they do give out merit money but that money is all based on the audition and goes to the best people. Also, beginning this coming year, music students will not be eligible for the automatic academic scholarships. All merit money will be decided by Jacobs. </p>

<p>Good luck in whatever path you choose.</p>

<p>I have a 3.2 and a 30 ACT thoughts on if I will get in? Out of state.</p>

<p>Musicmom23,</p>

<p>I’m from Mississippi and while I haven’t done anything on a national scale or been to those festivals, have you heard of the Mississippi Lions Band? I won’t go into detail (because there’s a lot of detail) but basically countries globally each have a Lions Band. Several states have their own Lions Band (as in, the US doesn’t have one particular like most countries). But every year a competition is held between all or almost all of the Lions Bands in the world, and Mississippi itself has been the reigning champion for the past 8 out of 9 years (on an international scale). They’ve won 27 or 28 times out of about 60.</p>

<p>All that being said, it’s a great band and definitely super hard to get into. This is the best thing that I have to compare myself to. I have not gotten in, but I auditioned last year and out of 51 alto saxes, I placed 19th. I expect to get a lot closer or possibly make it this year (they except 6, but most of the people ahead of me were seniors, and so they can’t audition again. It’s only for high school students).</p>

<p>I don’t think I’ll be able to go anywhere to have a more direct way done of sizing me up. But given the prestige of the band, would I be a decent consideration for the band? Keeping in mind these students who audition are (usually) the absolute best in the state of Mississippi.</p>

<p>Thanks for hopefully another comment. Or anyone else who would like to comment as well.</p>

<p>I think Musicmom23 was referring to the difficulty of auditioning/getting accepted into the Jacobs School of Music, which is many times harder than getting into IU’s marching band, which seems to be your goal. Only ten percent of the IU band are music majors at IU. </p>

<p>Here is info on getting into the “Marching One Hundred.”</p>

<p>[Marching</a> Hundred - Information for Prospective Members](<a href=“Indiana University Bloomington”>Indiana University Bloomington)</p>

<p>Oh, so the marching band isn’t part of the school of music? I didn’t really think about that. I’d like to be a part of both the school of music and the marching band though. But my goal would definitely be the school of music over anything else. lol This is very basic, maybe even borderline stupid, logic that I’m using, but I figure since the MS Lions Band auditions the top 50 saxes in MS (anyone can really audition, but the best of the best audition for sure so placing somewhat highly in the results still means “best of the best” I suppose), and only 6 get in (approximately the 88th percentile), I figured getting into the school of music (also the best of the best) with an acceptance rate of 25% (75th percentile) wouldn’t be as hard. That’s really basic logic, but I’m hoping it’s not dead wrong. Especially when this is all I have to compare myself to those who audition at Jacobs. lol</p>

<p>Also, I placed 19th out of exactly 51 to audition. So that’s approximately the 62nd percentile, which isn’t far from 75th. I plan on definitely improving with later auditions. I’m not saying any of this would mean I’m guaranteed in or not guaranteed in, I know it depends on the audition, but I’m hoping it gives me somewhat of an idea.</p>