<p>Are you implying that I am wrong??? You think I am an idiot? I am staring at a UCSD page that says Please note that you are not allowed to take an equivalent UCSD course for credit if you have received advanced placement credit. You can't repeat a class you got credit for! Think about it! But then again, I am just some random person on CC...</p>
<p>"You can't repeat a class you got credit for! Think about it! But then again, I am just some random person on CC..."</p>
<p>So why wont UCSD just let me FORFEIT the credits. Why does UCSD think it's so special....so many other schools let you forfeit.</p>
<p>I don't think any UC allows you to willfully forfeit AP credits...</p>
<p>If this policy that Beware0fNerd is quoting is on the official UCSD website, then why is there any confusion in the first place? Why does this need to be asked about in E-Advising anyway?</p>
<p>If markodarko is "confused" about the word of an adviser from E-advising (not apprised of the fact that orientation leaders can respond in e-advising) versus the word of some random person on CC, then obviously go with E-advising. But if the answer to this "confusion" is on the website, then this confusion is completely unnecessary.</p>
<p>markodarko2 - Call the BILD and Math department. I was in the same situation last year passing the AP Calc AB, but was not allowed to take 20A. So I called the department (math) and they easily did some dandy work that would let me enroll in 20A. However, I would not receive ANY credit and would be pretty much a waste of my time. Well I ended up not taking it and getting an A- in 20B.</p>
<p>--Conclusion, call the department.</p>
<p>If I had a choice between going with an advice from UCSD personnel versus going with an advice of a teenager, I would definitely choose the former.</p>
<p>But I'm just being reasonable, thats all. Make your own pick.</p>
<p>There should be no confusion. Try enrolling into BILD 1 and then "see what happens"</p>
<p>^That's stupid advice because you are allowed to only have 19.5 credits right now. I hope you were being sarcastic. If OP is considering BILD 1 vs. something else, this experiment may just cost him a chance at the something else if he wasn't supposed to have BILD 1 in the first place.</p>
<p>well, i think it depends on what college you're in. for example, UCSD says that you are not allowed to take an equivalent UCSD course for credit if you have received advanced placement credit. But in sixth college, there is this one GE requirement section called NAHR, which you need to complete 2 courses from that section. One of the available classes you can take is a U.S. History class. Now, they said you can only use 1 AP credit to satisfy 1 course in that area. So I asked the counselors on E-Advising, Can I still take U.S. History classes even though I already got 4 on the AP U.S. History exam and using it for the same GE area? and they said, yea it does not matter, you can take any U.S. history class and it will not duplicate credit. I asked them this 3 times to make sure and 3 different academic counselors gave me the same response.</p>
<p>i know someone who got ap bio credits and took bild 1 anyways. she just signed up for it with no problem. didn't even ask any advisor or anything.</p>
<p>^serenegirl, was your friend able to forfeit his/her ap credit....did your friend get credit for the BILD1 class (like your grade counting toward gpa)?</p>
<p>AP Credit doesn't factor into GPA.</p>
<p>wow people, chill out... all he wants is a college-level education in basic bio. If any of you are pre-med, you shouldn't be coming down hard on this guy because I guarantee you, if you're going to try to get through the MCAT with whatever you learned in AP bio, I hope you're cool with a crappy biological sciences score. There are a million reasons why he could have taken the test and not wanted the college credit for it. Yes, it was his choice to take the test, but maybe he realized AFTERWARDS that he would really rather take bio in college instead of APing out of it.</p>
<p>Anyway, you can't forfeit your AP credit... this stuff is policy of the University of California, not just UCSD. So, unless you really want to take it to that level , and even then it probably wouldn't work, you're stuck with the credit (I know, bureaucracy sucks). If you really want the knowledge, you can just audit the classes. OR, you can take it for a grade... the grade will show up on your transcript, but it won't factor into your GPA/credits (but I guess it'll show that you're a competent bio student if you get an A). I know it sucks that you're getting messed up because you just did well on an AP test, but stuff happens.</p>
<p>marko, she didn't. so there u go.</p>
<p>Sucks to hear this info but thanks for the responses.</p>
<p>Well markodarko,</p>
<p>Relating to your Biology issue, not all UCs force you to use your AP creds for biology. For example, in UCLA and UCI, even a 5 on the AP Bio exam gives you only elective credit, so you'd HAVE to retake it in those schools. They probably assume that AP Bio in high school isn't as rigorous, which is a very smart assumption.</p>
<p>I wonder what makes UCSD think AP Bio is so intense that it exempts two whole quarters of college biology...</p>
<p>My AP Bio class was not "so intense." That does not mean that I didn't learn plenty. The first bio class that I took at UCSD was BICD 100 (genetics) and I had no difficulty with it. It would have been a waste of my time to have repeated lower division requirements for a class in which not only have I already learned the material, but I even used the same exact book. Did I remember everything? No, of course not; I took AP Bio my junior year of high school. But when I looked concepts up again, I had no trouble understanding them and refreshing my memory. </p>
<p>Now, this doesn't mean that I believe that all students who took AP Bio should jump straight into upper division biology courses. A lot would benefit from taking those lower division BILD courses. How much students got out of AP Bio and how ready they are to move on to upper level biology usually depends more on the student and how much they endeavored to learn in their particular class, and not actually how rigorous the class was. </p>
<p>Those students who don't feel ready and want to re-take BILD 1 and 2 are not prohibited from signing up for the class and learning. Yeah, they won't get a grade. But if they're that worried, solidifying their foundations will help them get better grade in upper division courses. It's not the ideal system, of course. But some policy has to be made, and no matter what it is, there are going to be critics.</p>