<p>Rejected…</p>
<p>Go to one of the schools he was admitted to, such as Pomona. Much better weather, much better town. The Ivy League is over-hyped. Princeton has a 30% cap on who gets an A in each class, Harvard and Yale graduates in general are no better than graduates from any other school, taken on a graduate by graduate basis and examined holistically. My only regret is wasting my parents money and the time I spent applying thinking I had a chance to survive the “holistic” review. Yeah, right…</p>
<p>Hey Duke: I’m sorry that you’re so hurt by Yale’s rejection but your posture at this point is rather unseemly and speaks poorly about you. This is the 2nd posting where you slag Yale –just because it rejected you?</p>
<p>Really? Does the term “sour grapes” come to mind?</p>
<p>You know, I was really into Yale before my deferral. I still really liked it while waiting but my interests started to ween. Now, I was sad I got rejected, but I don’t know if I would’ve gone and regretted it after all if I was accepted. Maybe it’s a good thing I got rejected.</p>
<p>In response to the discussion between T26E4 and Duke58:
I agree with Duke on part of it-- I do think the Ivy League is overrated in terms of assuming that it is the “best possible education.” Some people apply to the Ivies only because they have to be “on top,” and they are hypercompetitive. Some people don’t care if they’re a fit, they just send out all 8 apps. The Ivies do provide, in their own ways, fabulous educations. But not everyone is a good fit for even some of the Ivy League schools, and they would be better suited to less prestigious colleges and universities. People do overhype the Ivies. HOWEVER, this is where I differ:
Some people <em>are</em> good fits for the Ivies. They aren’t applying because they think the Ivy students are inherently superior to everywhere else; instead, they’re applying because they truly fall in love with one or more of those schools.</p>
<p>For me, that was Yale. </p>
<p>This is where I agree with T26. I am an Ivy League reject. I only applied to one Ivy, and that was Yale. I love (note the lack of past tense) Yale. It would be a wonderful place to go to school, and I am in love with it. Yet, I was deferred and then rejected. I opened my Eli Account and got the heartbreaking Dean’s Letter of rejection just like everyone else. But I didn’t turn around and spite Yale for it. I know that there were thousands upon thousands of wonderfully qualified applicants, and that the Yale Class of 2016 is a wonderful, fabulous bunch who deserved admission at least as much, if not more, than I did. So I don’t hate Yale for rejecting me. I still love it. Yes, I’m sad to be rejected, but I have 9 acceptances and I know that I will be happy at whatever college I choose to go to out of those.
The review IS holistic. I am confident that Yale saw in me a competent young woman, and read my application with respect. But I also understand and respect their decision to reject me in favor of other people-- all of whom are wonderful human beings who will enjoy and thrive at Yale.</p>
<p>I’m not saying that the Ivy League doesn’t have its flaws. Yale, and the other Ivies, have flaws in their system just like any other school. But think for a minute what it’s like to be an admissions officer there. 
It would depress me, that’s for sure.</p>
<p>I am saying that the Ivies are all wonderful different places with wonderful different incoming classes, and that they deserve at least as much respect as any other reputable institutions of higher education.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you, Duke, in your decisions concerning colleges. But I hope you’ll be able to let your Yale rejection go. You must’ve liked it, or you wouldn’t have applied. It’s okay to be sad (I know I am!), but you’ll go to an amazing school and be an amazingly successful person. So will the accepted Yalies. Don’t be bitter! 
I’m sure you had a stellar application.</p>
<p>Stand tall. There’s no need to be ashamed of an Ivy rejection. It’s a lottery, and there are a limited number of equally qualified winners. I, ermsypermsy, am an Ivy League reject. A Yale reject. But I will happily accept another label: a 2016 [wherever I end up going] student who respects the schools that turned her down.</p>
<p>(Sorry for the long response, I just feel very strongly about this issue and wanted to put in my two cents.)</p>
<p>Hey! I was rejected, and at first I always thought that this fact about my schooling was a pro, but I never really asked, and I was curious, so… For 11th, and 12th grade, I attended a local college that’s a feeder school for University of Texas. By the time of hs graduation, I’ll have about 60 credit hours. At the end of this semester I’ll have 51 credit hours and about a 3.94. And although I applied as a non-transfer, and I wasn’t going to take any of these credits with me to Yale. Did just my having this many college credit hours hurt me? I was wondering if just having these credits made it so I’d HAVE to apply as a transfer, even if I didn’t want to bring those credits with me, or something? For my homeschooling we used these college classes as dual credit high school classes. I really hope someone may be able to help me with my question. Thanks!</p>
<p>Dear Ermsypermsy, your post above was so wise and sweet that I had to look up your acceptances—and I see that some wonderful colleges long to have you join them! So congratulations on those, and I know that with your attitude you will have a great college career.</p>
<p>From a mom and oboe fan</p>
<p>Aw, thanks, lemonade1! I had just done a lot of thinking after getting my letter, and I felt like sharing.</p>
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<p>Only post-HS college coursework counts toward being counted as a transfer student. You were considered for admission as a fr applicant and your college coursework did not affect your decison.</p>
<p>Okay, I just wanted to make sure. It was a thought that just passed through my head, and I wanted to make sure. Thank you for answering my question :)!</p>
<p>Hey,</p>
<p>To international applicants: could you please post your stats/decisions in the relevant thread on the “international students” sub-forum? </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Last week, I was rejected from every Ivy League School, except for Columbia, where I was waitlisted. These are my stats.</p>
<p>36 ACT
4.4 GPA (4.0 unweighted)
800 SAT 2 Chem, 780 SAT 2 US History
5’s on 8 AP Exams
2 Year Swimming Captain, 4 Year Varsity
President of a BuildOn Club, 2 years
2x All State Swimming
National Merit Finalist
US Presidential Scholar Candidate
Multiple other Minor Awards
250 Hrs Community Service
National AP Scholar
12 AP Classes
Worked tutoring ACT and SAT Classes
Both teachers I had do my recommendations are very close to me, as well as my counselor.
Contacted Coaches to walk on to swimming programs
And my application essays were reviewed by friends at Harvard and Yale, and they were decent at least.</p>
<p>As can be seen, I expected to be admitted to at least one school, however, I was not, and I am very disappointed. I did receive another minor honor this week, and though it itself may not be the best grounds for appeal, I believe my current situation warrants a second look. Anyone have any advice? I could really use some help.</p>
<p>In addition, I am an Indian Male.</p>
<p>^
Perhaps not applying to solely the Ivy League might have been a good idea? There’s still some schools you can apply to (SUNY and elsewhere in Canada, I think but I may be wrong), so look into that. Otherwise, take a year out.</p>
<p>Cornell may be still accepting applications. They have sent a few emails stating to apply if we don’t like our options. Also, it must’ve been your essays, I assume.</p>
<p>I got deferred first and then rejected… :)</p>
<p>But I am totally fine. I loved Yale because it was the first US school I ever saw and had the chance to study at.
Luckily, after I got deferred I managed to look with fresh eyes at some other schools and truly liked 4-5 of them. One month before decisions were released I actually talked to my counselor that I would turn down Yale for one school even if Yale accepted me. Eventually Yale turned me down, but the school I found myself to be a better fit for, Harvard, accepted me, so there I am headed. :)</p>
<p>Good luck to all those still waiting. Everything does happen for a reason.</p>
<p>^That isn’t reassuring at all.
Congratulations on Harvard - is that what you want to hear?</p>
<p>No…
My whole point was that the world doesn’t end with a rejection.
And that because of a rejection, we shouldn’t turn against a school.
Do I still respect Yale after getting rejected? Oh, yes.
Have I dissed Yale? No and I wouldn’t.</p>
<p>Sorry if I did sound unclear…my post was provoked by the multiple comments on the previous pages in which someone else who got rejected just trashed Yale totally, which I thought was dumb. :)</p>
<p>PS: I also meant to say that what we often think to be the best fit for us may in fact not be the best fit and that a rejection/ deferral should be used to find that fit. ;)</p>
<p>ermsypermsy, your post was great. Any school will be lucky to have you. What poise, class, wisdom, self-awareness, and sensitivity you must have!</p>
<p>Like a lot of folks, I was rejected after being deferred. Someone told me that deferral was basically a polite rejection, but I still held on to some hope…now thinking back, I should’ve been more realistic. I think the best advice for someone applying to a place like Yale is to aim high, but keep all expectations low. Of course Yale is a great school, but it isn’t the only one. I really don’t believe that there is a “perfect” fit for any one - I can see myself at a lot of places. Just be happy that we’re young and have our whole lives ahead of us!</p>
<p>Decision: Rejected (SCEA)</p>
<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): 2240 (710 CR, 790 M, 740 W)
[</em>] ACT: 34 (35 E, 35 M, 34 R, 32 S)
[<em>] SAT II: 800 World History, 770 Chem, 770 Math II
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 2 of 500
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): 5 (Lit, Chem, USH)
[<em>] Senior Year Course Load: AP Psych, Calc AB, Physics, Language, Spanish
[</em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): umm, QuestBridge?</p>
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Several clubs, but I mostly focused on music: Marching Band (Drum Major), Concert Band (1st Chair), Orchestra, out-of-school bands, organized a large charity event.
[</em>] Summer Activities: Band Camp, Drum Major Camp
[<em>] Essays: One about band and how I’ve matured from it, the other about growing up and supporting my family.
[</em>] Teacher Recommendation: AP Chem and USH teachers, didn’t read them
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Loved me, didn’t read it
[</em>] Interview: Good, we were from very similar life circumstances and she liked me.</p>
<p>[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): Illinois
[</em>] School Type: Very crappy public, never sends to Ivies
[<em>] Ethnicity: Jordanian (marked Caucasian)
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Income Bracket: Under 40,000
[</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): Low-income, gay catholic arab?</p>
<p>[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[<em>] Strengths: Decent academics, strong personality shown in my essays
[</em>] Weaknesses: Lack of awards or national recognition
[<em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: My unique life situation, and the fact that my teachers knew me very well.
[</em>] Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Accepted to Harvard (attending), Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Amherst, Wesleyan, Vassar, University of Illinois. Wait-listed from Princeton, Columbia, Duke, and University of Pennsylvania. Rejected from Yale (EA).</p>
<p>[/ul]General Comments: Acceptances are a crap-shoot. Apply to as many as you can and just be honest in your application. Where you end up might not be where you thought, but everything works out for the best.</p>