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<p>Indeed, you inferred something that wasn’t in fact implied. ;)</p>
<p>parent: it helps to know that curm’s D attended Rhodes, which is where Dave is Adcom, and that Dave liked to run from the back of the pack.</p>
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<p>Very nice, tom. Glad to know where you are coming from as “a person.”</p>
<p>I typed that poorly.</p>
<p>OK, give it another shot.</p>
<p>I meant merely attending or being accepted to an Ivy does not mean that you are necessarily the best in terms of character. I am sure there are many individuals at Ivies that are stellar in terms of character though.</p>
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<p>Which college does your S want to go to? There’s an assumption on this thread that he actually wants to go to either Yale or USD and the decision is purely a financial one yet these two colleges are quite different from each other in many ways and they’re in different ends of the country with USD being closer to home. Where your S wants to go, assuming he has a preference, should be a significant factor in the equation. </p>
<p>Not everyone wants to go to Yale. For example, despite my suggestion neither of my kids wanted to apply to colleges in the NE including Y, H, etc. But for those willing to go there and who are accepted, one would really have to think through all the variables to make the decision since it’s not an opportunity one should turn down lightly.</p>
<p>On the financial end - again, it’s too personal a decision for anyone here to help you significantly. You’ve seen the Yale (at $48K additional cost) vs. USD discussions here. Assuming your S is inclined to go to Yale then think about that $48K over 4 years. For some people it’s a large amount of money but for some it’s not that big of a deal. It’s only $12K/yr (but make sure you toss in another couple thousand for visits home). Many people can put a dent in that 12K/yr by skipping vacations, not making car payments, not remodeling the kitchen, the W getting a paid job (if she doesn’t have one), the S getting a paid job on campus, the S working the summers or getting paid internships, and other ways. For example, if you have a car you’re making car payments on (especially a higher end car) then IMO you have enough money available to make up some of this difference by swapping for a car where you’ll have no payments.</p>
<p>If my kid wanted to attend Yale I’d fund the $12K/yr vs USD but that’s just me with my personal situation.</p>
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But would recognition that many of the same attributes praised at elite UG’s (resources, connections, fit, vibe, the previously mentioned “B and B” or as modified “some of the B and B” ;), etc ) are also applicable when choosing the experience of a Top Med School over other med schools been too much to ask? Or is the human mind incapable of expansion past age 23? “You are done with all that ‘ploring and learnin’, kid. Here’s your body wrench and cute little body hammer.” ;)</p>
<p>Med school as simply and only a “trade school” was just not in my D’s plan. That idea just has very little appeal to her . Contrary to the common wisdom of applying to every med school in your home state, she refused to apply to the 2 Texas medical schools that most emphasize primary care as she felt they were light on research opps. She wanted a research-heavy, research-oriented medical school. Wherever she matriculated to med school, she planned on continuing her research every summer, and through a formal Medical Master’s or PhD. program or an informal 5th year. She is incredibly excited about this summer’s gig at YSM and thinks it will lead to her required Thesis.</p>
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<p>No it doesn’t, but the only way I know of to evaluate an applicant’s character is via teacher recommendations. In that regard, Yale requires 2 teacher recs and USD only requires 1.</p>
<p>Sure they are, curmudgeon - it just has to do with where you put your focus. As a sample of one, my H did indeed treat u-grad as the mind-expanding piece of the equation and med school as the “trade” school. Many of his classmates who had also attended elite u-grad schools felt the same way. They all seemed to feel that med schools were fairly fungible and interchangeable. Med school wasn’t an “experience” the way that u-grad was. Of course your daughter’s mileage may vary. Out here in the world of practicing everyday physicians, the ones who went to elite med schools are doing and getting paid the exact same as those who went to more average med schools.</p>
<p>And again we agree. </p>
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she would have made a different choice. In fact, if limited to that everyday world, she may well be in graduate school instead of med school.</p>
<p>I would second what UCSD said. My son earned between $6-12,000 each summer, plus got paid for his main EC and research thru the years. I belive he earned at least $40,000 during his college years.</p>
<p>Most important is what the OP’s son wants. Many college students shift their focus during these years. Has your son considered the residences at Yale? Being a House thru 4 years of UG was a plus for my son, but may not be for others. What about Core requirements? Diversity? Are ther frats at USD? Is that a plus orminus for your son?</p>
<p>For those interested in the exchange between Pg and I this post could be enlightening or at least entertaining. For those who consider it horribly off-topic…you really need to skip this post.</p>
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<p>To my D, this sounded a bit like Heaven. To those just interested in getting their M.D. ticket punched, some of this probably sounded a bit like Hell. lol</p>
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<p>Adding my D’s experience: She secured a summer job through her Ivy career services center that paid $15,000 for 10 weeks of work. Combined with her other summer jobs and part-time campus jobs (which her Ivy generously paid at $11 per hour), she probably earned over $30,000 before graduation.</p>
<p>Not saying that USD doesn’t also provide these types of job opportunities - I have no knowledge in that regard.</p>
<p>Can’t say about USD. My d. got similar from American U., which, according to Princeton Review, has a higher rated career center than any of the Ivies.</p>
<p>what is bandB?</p>
<p>BandB - a new abbreviation for Best and the Brightest.</p>
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It will be all over the 'net in a week. And just think, we were all here at the birth of an abbreviation. ;)</p>
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<p>I completely agree. I think this is a very important factor and could even be the deciding factor.</p>
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<p>Completely agree on this one too. This is really a matter of how much money the family has and how much it is willing and able to spend. </p>
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<p>I agree with this too. But only if my kid wanted Yale. If my kid wanted USD (and was premed) I would let her choose that (after getting her to read this thread).</p>
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<p>This is a place you can stay overnight in a pictaresque area. Breakfast is generally included, hence, bed and breakfast.</p>
<p>Many who go to the ivies enjoy being surrounded by bed and breakfasts. It’s a nice way to get away from the pressure. :p</p>