Yes, No, Maybes?

<p>MomCares- Thanks for the S. Foster story. You think Kristin Chenoweth got rejected anywhere? ;)</p>

<p>Sure… I say we pretend Kristin was rejected from CCM and Northwestern, ok? ;-D</p>

<p>It does spread fast, agreed. I also know someone accepted (likely same as others know, a girl). Went to my daughter’s theater camp.</p>

<p>I know the same girl, Soozievt, as my daughter is friends with her at that camp. She certainly deserves a spot at UMich! So happy for her!</p>

<p>I’m getting the impression that getting into Michigan MT is like a future lawyer getting into Harvard, true?</p>

<p>Does anyone have any insight to how these kids are ranked for consideration? Is it equal singing, dance and voice. I heard that different people judged each section. How do they keep from getting all tall blonds for example?</p>

<p>The department’s philosophy has nothing to do with training cookie cutter triple threats, so they are focused on creating individuals. Academics, essays, recommendations, singing, acting, dance, music knowledge, etc. are all taken into consideration. So no, acting/singing/dancing are not equal in consideration because Michigan isn’t obsessed with you being equally qualified in all three areas. They are looking for potential as well.</p>

<p>monkey13, I’m not sure who you are, but if you have a kid in this year’s admissions cycle, wishing him/her best of luck! Not sure if my kid overlapped with yours. Mine attended the theater camp from 1998-2005. I’m not positive she overlapped the girl who just got into UMich, but my D was in shows with this girl’s older sister who also attended the camp and is now in college in this field and my D also has had their mother for a teacher in college. Talented family!</p>

<p>Theatremomma, I don’t know about equating BFA in MT admissions to UMich with law school admissions to Harvard Law. However, BFA in MT admissions in general are highly competitive and UMich is often considered as one of the “top” programs or most competitive ones and it is hard to get into. </p>

<p>LillyB, I have no idea how applicants are “ranked” but I believe voice, acting, and dance are all important. I don’t think voice can be weak though and it is a music school, after all. It is easy to keep from getting all tall blonds, however. The faculty and administrators get together to discuss candidates vocally, acting, and dance-wise, and also academically speaking and all the other components of the application, and like at any school, it is not purely a “talent contest” of the best 25 kids or some such as they try to build a varied class of types (remember they also have head shots and other background information on hand).</p>

<p>I certainly don’t know how they choose their class, but I can attest that the girl who was accepted (and mentioned in previous posts) is amazing! She is not only an outstanding singer, she is sweet, smart, beautiful and has that “extra something” when she is on stage.</p>

<p>collegesearch26, I have to say that I don’t think any of the MT programs attempt to create “cookie cutter” triple threats. I think most want each student to be an individual who has strong skills in voice, acting, and dance by the time they graduate the BFA program.</p>

<p>Thanks collegesearch26. What I hear you saying is they are looking for artistic potential. And talent of course. That it is OK if some areas aren’t as avanced as others.</p>

<p>LillyB…in all due respect to collegesearch26, he or she is a current applicant. I don’t think he/she truly is privy to what UMich is looking for with any guarantee of accuracy other than having attended information sessions, talking to current students, and so forth.</p>

<p>I think with any competitive BFA in MT program, those with the best odds are going to be strong at singing, acting, and dance. However, at most BFA programs, often a person can get in if strong in two areas and weaker in a third area that they have some skill with and potential in that area. I don’t think voice can be the weaker of the three areas or simply have some potential however. I think if someone is very strong in voice and dance and weaker at acting but with some evidence of potential, it is possible to get in and same with strong at voice and acting and weaker at dance. But when the acceptance rates are so low, please know that there are some candidates who are strong at singing, acting, and dance…not to mention academics. Top schools do not have to simply accept those with potential when they have a slew of candidates who have strong artistic skill sets.</p>

<p>mompop, I’m assuming you must have a kid who attended this same theater camp. I have seen so many talented kids there. And I know a large number who have gone onto fine college programs for acting and MT and many who have met with great success in the profession after that. :slight_smile: Best to your child as well!</p>

<p>Thanks soozievt. I guess it doesn’t really matter at this point how they rank them. Second guessing is an exercise in futility. It is what it is. Waiting is murder.</p>

<p>thanks for the vote of confidence soozievt</p>

<p>collegesearch26, I didn’t mean to offend you, but my concern is that the member (and the zillions of others who are reading the forum) was relying on your statement of what UMichigan is looking for and I think it is important to caution members that they are reading the opinion of an applicant and not direct information from the college. You offered a perspective, but it isn’t fact. I can’t offer fact as I am not on the admissions committee either. It isn’t as if your posts don’t have merit! I just don’t think that Lilly or others reading should assume that the information is factual as to what UMich weighs and how they do it, etc. Your post #47 comes off as factual rather than as an opinion. I don’t mean to undermine your thoughts on the topic! LillyB’s response appeared to be taking your post as factual and it may or may not be as you truly don’t know. I’d say that about any applicant, not just you and so it is not personal. And I will certainly root for you in your admissions process! :)</p>

<p>Honestly, no one besides the faculty really knows what goes on in that admissions meeting. No hard feelings!</p>

<p>At this point, now that auditions are done for most kids, the reality is that all anyone who is not on the admissions committee can do is speculate as to what any given school is looking for – and to what end? It certainly will have no affect on the outcome. That said, clearly these schools ALL have more than enough applicants to have their pick of some very talented individuals. On average it seems that these schools will audition as many as 1000 kids. Having gone to many of these auditions this year and in the past, I can tell you that I have seen fewer than 1 boy for every 4 girls auditioning (this year it seems to be even less). So boys have a definite odds advantage. I would speculate that SOOZIEVT is right that vocal talent/potential is paramount. I know for a fact that at some schools dance experience is not necessary as long as the individual is teachable. I would also suspect that decent acting chops would be needed. But every school will place empahsis on what IT considers most important. Some may insist that ALL 3 are strong. And that all said, with the audition pool as large as it is, it is VERY likely these schools will all have ample numbers of candidates who ARE reasonably proficient in all three areas. But again, I would agree that the musical talent is of paramount importantance, so I would imagine that no school would accept someone for MT that does not have pretty good vocals now and the potential to be great in their opinion.</p>

<p>But the bottom line is that as frustrating as it is, speculating will not affect the outcome one bit. Yes, the waiting is very stressful and furstrating. Maybe some other distraction than forums would be helpful :slight_smile: BEST OF LUCK TO EVERYONE!!!</p>

<p>MTPops, agree with all that! Anyone going into this field is going to go through this multiple times over. You can have a GREAT audition and still be rejected or not cast. Gotta just do each one and move on. </p>

<p>I love having daughters but BFA in MT college admissions is one time when it would have been easier to have a son. :smiley: (not easy to get in but better odds than for girls)</p>

<p>Everyone should go into this process with realistic glasses on. Rejections are part of the process. Every successful actor has had many rejections in the profession. Everyone I know at a “top” BFA in MT program was rejected some place else. It is what it is. It ain’t for the faint of heart. Believe in yourself. If you had an appropriate and well balanced college list, you’ll be going to college next year. It will work out. The number of acceptances and all this stuff won’t matter to you a year from now. You can only attend one college and you’ll be some place next year and it’s gonna be good.</p>

<p>Well said.</p>