<p>Yup....that's based on what I have seen only, not on validation from admissions......think of it this way.....If you WANT a certain group at your school, you will be more willing to accept a lesser candidate...
You see it at other schools with respect to URM's, gender preferences, etc.....so in this case think of OOS students as an under-represented group....it will be easier to understand.</p>
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<p>out of state enrollment at the sunys have tended to be fairly low - so it'd probably take a fairly drastic turnaround to see legislation. though the sunys certainly have been getting plenty of press for being a great value for oss -- if they find the need to use lower standards the boost the number of oss, it means that oss applications are still somewhat limited. at a lot of other state schools that are popular for oss students, standards for oss seem to keep going up (and not all have significant limits on the number of oss)</p>
<p>iamhere: I guess i should have qualified my "no publics around HERE".....lol.....your assessment is straight on and is in agreement with what we have seen.......</p>
<p>and yes, it would take a drastic turnaround to see any type of legislation......</p>
<p>rodney is absolutely right about Bing; other state schools want OOS students and their $$ as well. UConn and URI do...there are more but I think Bing is particularly aggressive because they have so few OOS right now and it is important to build up their national reputation.</p>
<p>thanks for the heads up about UConn and URI (if you can remember more, please PM me....)...although I think URI OOS tuition is high? can't remember right now.....</p>
<p>When we were at an info meeting at UConn, the admissions person stated to the audience that they want to get more OOS. And I've heard that from Connecticut high school kids that they believe UConn wants OOS....sorry I don't have statistics. It would be interesting to compare kids from NY and CT who apply to both Bing and UConn. URI has kind of always been for OOS kids; I think it is sometimes 50% (COA nearing $40000 now - but it is near the beach!).</p>
<p>I personally think it is ridiculous that OOS is getting preference. These schools are funded by our mother and father's hard earned money. And NY has ONE of the lowest OOS tuition in the nation. I know that NY is in tough times but they should increase OOS tuition to combat this. Not try to accept as many as possible. I know Binghamton wants to gain reputation by creating diversity and I am OK with that-and they should make that known. But this nonsense about accepting OOS for the extra $$. I strongly disagree.</p>
<p>i strongly disagree too,sean are you in state?</p>
<p>My daughter is OOS and has an SAT score of 1450/1600...4.0 GPA. She was accepted with no academic scholarship money expected and if she decides to attend it will cost us more than many of the other schools that have offered her academic money. Two schools have offered her full tuition.</p>
<p>Binghamton has a good enough reputation, in my opinion, to not give special treatment to any student in-state or out-of-state.</p>
<p>We live in PA and we also have a very large and very affordable State University System. None of the schools come close to the reputation of Binghamton but are very inexpensive. We also have 3 large Public Universities that are not part of the PA state system as they have independent charters....Penn State, University of Pittsburgh and Temple. All of these 3 public/non-state system schools have tuition about the same as the OOS Binghamton rate.</p>
<p>Instate
GPA: 3.67
Class Rigor: AP, Honors, 18 total classes taken senior year (3 of which are AP, 5 of which are at the community college)
SAT/ACT: 1840/2400
Rank: 20/220
Awards: Local Linguistics Award
Significant ECs: President of American Field Service, Member of Amnesty International, Student Council, 2009 Summer Volunteer to Ibiza, Spain
Recs: Luke warm
Essay: I don't remember writing an essay, so probably not too good.</p>
<p>I agree with sean and c2meang. It's not fair.
Not to mention the economic situation is just perfect timing for us..</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight Rodney: and people really tried to do that?
I was kidding but that's really interesting.</p>
<p>I wish everyone could indicate which school in BING that they applied to. </p>
<p>SCHOOL OF MANAGEMENT
gpa: 91.77 ( 3 aps only )
sat: 1760
Great recs and essay
president of one club, member of 2 different sports teams, volunteer, internship at Columbia university..</p>
<p>I was glad to be deferred with THOSE stats. My stats are pretty low compared to everyone else's.. But now that my app has been deferred to RD, my december act score (30) would be seen by BING! so yay.. lol</p>
<p>I would just to wish all of you deferrals luck, and not to take anything personally! College admissions really is a crap shoot, especially with the yucky economy.</p>
<p>i am OOS but i applied to school of management so i guess that is harder...also i am from NJ so that could also be bad
i got deffered with a 3.81 weighted GPA 1330/1600 SAT lots of honors and APs and pretty good ECs and recs....i thought i would have gotten in...oh well...</p>
<p>An admissions counselor told me that a "VAST MAJORITY" of EA applicants were deferred, so don't be overly worried by a deferral. Binghamton really wants to see what the "overall applicant pool" looks like before they start accepting a large number of EA candidates. Good luck to everyone! :)</p>
<p>To add on to markopolo's comment - this is especially true with the economy factor, and the fact that my freshman class is about 3,000 students, and there isn't enough room to house us all in doubles (a lot of people were trippled at the beginning of the year). And to solve this problem, they're doing it the only way they can - by reducing the class size... </p>
<p>If anybody has any questions about Bing in general, or the admissions process, don't hesitate to PM me!</p>
<p>So after the last 2 BS posts, let's see if we can get back on topic. My son was also deferred. His English teacher actually went down to speak to the guidance counselor after my son told her, and the gc called Bing and said "you must have made a mistake". The only thing I can imagine is that it's his 1310 SAT since his grades are excellent (7 out of 200 or so in his class). But as others have said, they are obviously being very picky, I think only one person in his school got admitted EA. I think the situation is due to 2 things - 1) I am pretty sure this is the top of the baby boom curve, so there are more students competing this year, and 2) with the economy the way it is, places like Bing (and other SUNY schools) are much more popular amount kids who normally would go to a pricey private school.</p>
<p>I personally think that SUNY should raise their OOS tuition to a rate comparable (or at least closer) to what other states charge. My son applied to Pittsburgh, Delaware and Maryland, and they're all around $20k for OOS (as is Rutgers). Why should SUNY (and the state) be subsidizing OOS applicants, especially when they are killing to get into a school like Binghamton? I know the tuition is going up this year but a moderate amount, but it will still be much less than other states.</p>
<p>No one would go to Bing if they charged the same OOS as Maryland or Rutgers.</p>
<p>Tons of really great students got deferred from Bing at D's school; the one who got in will probably end up at an Ivy. Two of her friends with excellent stats who were deferred at Bing are probably going to Albany - so this could be a positive thing for other SUNY schools.</p>
<p>You can't be serious here. Are you actually claiming that the only reason Binghamton is popular among OOS applicants is because it's cheap? I think it's got as good an academic reputation as Maryland and Rutgers, if not better. The fact that it's been $10k less only adds to that reputation.</p>
<p>I will acknowledge that lesser SUNY schools might have a problem with higher tuition rates.</p>
<p>And Albany has been picking up Bingamton's "leftovers" for years now. Their Presidential Scholarships also help to convince people to go there. If the fallout goes to the lesser schools, that would be a good thing.</p>
<p>Well, saying "no one" is inappropriate, but even with lower tuition than Maryland and Rutgers for OOS Bing does not have a huge OOS population. It has a great academic reputation and all the kids there are really smart, but cold weather, middle of nowhere, no football team etc....there are debates about this all over CC - if Bing was $35,000 for OOS would kids from Ohio pick it over UConn, Rutgers, Maryland, Delaware, Penn State, etc. The low tuition is a huge draw.</p>