<p>So it seems that only out of state decisions have been sent out. Anyone in state receive one? </p>
<p>If that is the case (which is what we were told by Bing during a visit last fall), it is unbelievably scummy and disrespectful to the people whose taxes provide most of the funds.</p>
<p>Looks like they are looking for OOS tuition to boost revenues. I know a couple of kids who applied in-state and no one has an answer yet.</p>
<p>Zoosermom----I agree!</p>
<p>When we went for our visit the admissions rep giving the info session said straight out that they are giving preference to out-of-state students. We heard later through the grapevine that they went to “modified rolling” this year to get all the applications in, take a large chunk of out-of-state kids and then fill in with in-state later. Pretty outrageous.</p>
<p>Well, as an instate, I guess I’m screwed. As my stats are right in their target range for everything, I had hope. Last year my school had 36 people accepted with lower stats than mine…maybe things have changed.</p>
<p>I’m sorry to say, evnstvn, that things have changed. Binghamton changed its entire admissions process this year and its stated goals, as well.</p>
<p>My D is above the 75th percentile across the board at Bing and, after our visit in the fall, we never had any real hope of admission. I would like to eat those words and I wish you all the best!</p>
<p>Thank you, Zoosermom.</p>
<p>since this is the first year that the school is using this system, i would just encourage patience to see how this all plays out before jumping to conclusions as to what this will mean. but realize this is all a product of the economic situation – for the school and for the students.</p>
<p>binghamton was already getting increasingly difficult to get into. some students who may have gotten in a few years ago with their stats simply won’t be getting in this year – a lot of that is because of the increase in applications overall due to the economy. also, in the past a lot of kids applied to binghamton and other sunys simply as “safeties,” hoping not to actually have to go. not only have applications been soaring, but the percentage of those accepting offers of admission have been rising. both of those factors are just going to make admissions a lot tougher.</p>
<p>binghamton has always had a fairly low percentage of OSS students. even though they may be finding out sooner, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they are taking a significantly larger portion of the acceptances – only time will tell on that.</p>
<p>but its difficult times - for students increasingly looking to the sunys for a more affordable college education, but also for the state schools dealing with budget cuts – even with the governor’s proposal to give suny’s greater control over their budget, there is still a proposed further cut in state funding of suny – and OSS tuition is one way to try to address that. if you don’t like the fact that the sunys are being pushed to try to gain more OSS tuition money, contact your state legislator about the state funding for sunys. to continue to maintain quality, the money has to come from somewhere. no one is going to like the tuition increases that are sure to come as a result of the governor’s proposal either.</p>
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Just so you know, taking someone’s word for something isn’t “jumping to conclusions.”</p>
<p>The Binghamton admissions folks have been very open and honest about their plans. I don’t happen to like them and am entitled to say so. I have already contacted my legislator, the governor, and a SUNY trustee whom I know personally.</p>
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<p>yes they have and they should be commended for that. but the fact that they are giving some preference to OSS applicants doesn’t mean that there will suddenly be a massive increase in the number of OSS admittees and corresponding huge drop in openings for instaters – there simply haven’t been that many OSS students and i doubt Binghamton, NY (or more accurately, Vestal, NY) will suddenly become a major draw for people from out of state. time will tell if the bargain suny tuition will start changing that. but as i said, its early to jump to conclusions as to how all of this will in fact impact any instate applicant.</p>
<p>its great to hear you’ve contacted those you say you have – i hope everyone with an interest in the suny’s does so – last year the state pocketed 90% of the tuition increase (on top of significant budget cuts) before most constituents even knew what was happening.</p>
<p>It’s not really the admissions that I have a problem with, believe it or not. It’s the NOTIFICATION that burns me up. I don’t think it’s acceptable to hold in-state kids’ apps after begining to notify out-of-state kids. There should be some benefits to having your parents pay the taxes, at least the courtesy of finding out, if not first, then not last.</p>
<p>Yea I live in NJ, know three people that got in that found out over the weekend. haven;t heard back form them yet, but I didn’t submit until December.</p>
<p>Have to admit though, that is kind of messed up. Had a feeling that would end up happening with their increased selectivity. Like everyone said, I would just wait a little longer, I’m sure thousands of IS applicants will get in as well.</p>
<p>Don’t hope on IS decisions coming out anytime soon. OOS will be given preference in decision making and notification. Admissions will probably look at IS alongside, due to the sheer amount of IS applicants, but notification will be mid/late March period.</p>
<p>Zoosermom…here’s a funny story. My son applied to Bing for Fall 2008, applied early in October, was deferred to regular, and ultimately rejected on the last day that letters were to be mailed out, something like April 1. He had a 90 overall GPA, 2AP’s, 1260 SAT’s. He goes to JMU now, state school in Virginia, and a friend, who also goes to JMU, who lives in Virginia, got into Bing, with lower credentials. for the same application period. My son got into Vtech, as OOS, and this boy, in state, didn’t. So, it’s all about the money, and OOS tuition is clearly a factor in the decision process. Too bad, I couldn’t reap the benefits of my son attending Bing, as an In state student, after paying NYS taxes for about 25 years. I think he was competitive applicant. He did apply, and get acceptances from other Suny’s, but we chose JMU, and he is happy that he did!</p>
<p>Since I’m snowed in today, I thought I would call admissions to ask about when decisions would be released. The representative told me the standard line…by April 1st. She said that all decisions would be mailed at the same time. I asked why people oos had already received decisions. (She said a lot of people have asked that…I guess they read CC.) The rep said that only “special circumstance” cases had received decisions which according to posts here I don’t believe. (Perhaps OOS is a special circumstance!) In the long run, I think this is a very poor policy for Binghamton. I guess the waiting game continues…</p>
<p>I’ll play Devil’s Advocate here (since I was the messenger on this one last spring)…</p>
<p>Many schools in the US play this game with full-pay international students; that is, they get early notification so that the schools can “plan” based on their $$…</p>
<p>Other schools do this with other URM’s; notification of URM’s comes before everyone else…for whatever goals the school has in mind…</p>
<p>I do agree that a public university that is supported by taxpayer $$ should not do this; but looking at it from the perspective that OOS students are URM’s to Binghamton may make it easier to UNDERSTAND…note, I am not saying easier to ACCEPT…</p>
<p>You’re right, as always, rodney. For us, it’s easier to accept that Delaware’s decision will come later and that their own kids will have preference. My D is in an IB program and most of the kids (who are high achievers) applied to Binghamton with real intentions of attending. However, many of them (including my D) have gotten excellent offers from other schools and are no longer interested. Which is amusing in a way because Bing loves IB.</p>
<p>zm: Delaware has the opposite problem (goal) as Binghamton; they tend to lose their in-state kids to OOS schools; their institutional goals are to keep the Del kids in-state; therefore, it makes perfect sense to release in-state decisions first; Del has more than enough OOS applicants/attendees to let them wait…and Delaware, if I remember correctly, is not a “state” school in the traditional sense; I forgot what it’s called though…</p>
<p>I understand why Bing would want OOS and I understand why UD wants more in-state. Let the numbers be what they may… but send everyone’s letters at the same time! If my D gets in to Bing, she will likely go there (in state) - great school, great price. However, she’s not a shoe-in… so we’re really hoping to get an acceptance to UD. She’s got 4 other acceptances (and one deferral, from a school that was in her top 3 choices), but I think it will come down to Bing and UD. However, after the past week, UD isn’t holding an advantage in the weather column!</p>
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Exactly. It’s not the admission I object to, it’s the lack of courtesy. I really don’t think that’s too much to ask, particularly since Stonybrook already did their acceptances. I also think Bing has been disingenuous all the way through in this admission cycle and that’s left a bad taste in a lot of mouths.</p>
<p>D has gotten a couple of acceptances that she’s very happy with and there’s one she’s hoping for. That being TCNJ. If she gets in there, even with no money, we will probably figure out a way to pay for it because they have exactly what she wants and she is a weirdo. My husband is very generous with those kidneys!</p>
<p>UD could be an outlier for D (if she gets in) because that art conservation program is really special.</p>