A+ college for a B student with decent SAT

<p>Well to start off, I live in NY but I don't mind going anywhere along the east coast. I'm a senior and I did really well as a junior compared to my other years. My cumulative GPA is a 86.1 which is like a 3.0-3.1 on a 4.0 scale. As a junior my average was around a 90.</p>

<p>SAT:
Math:580
Verbal:580
Writing:540
Total:1700, or 1160/1600</p>

<p>I want the size to be over 4,000 undergrads or close to it. Right now I'm undecided as to my major, but I'm leaning towards liberal arts, sciences, and psychology. I don't care if it is public or private, I just don't want to have to pay over 30 grand in tuition.</p>

<p>Bumping</p>

<p>If there’s any info I may have left out, or if you need more just let me know. Thanks</p>

<p>City, town, country?</p>

<p>most people on here would not consider that a “decent” SAT, bud</p>

<p>Clearly convolver is not talking about applying to Harvard. There are PLENTY of schools that woud consider 1700 a decent score. Heres the thing, NJ Soccer I come to this website because Im excited about the college application process and I look forward to discussing it with people who are as excited as I am. But there is this whole hyper-competitve nature that really turns me off to this site. the way people like you will go out of their ways just to make a comment like that makes me want to stop visiting CC</p>

<p>How about Ithaca, Quinnipiac, UMass…</p>

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<p>Penn State
UMass
Ramapo College(cool public liberal arts college in NJ with 5800 students)</p>

<p>I think PSU will be tougher to get into as it is a school that is very focused on gpa. Some others to possibly check into are URI, Towson, Marist, George Mason, UNH and Temple. Best of luck!</p>

<p>ditto : Ithaca, Quinnipiac…UMass seems too big for the OP…lower down the east coast, University of Tampa…higher up, Roger Williams in RI…</p>

<p>Ramapo may be a little reachy but can’t hurt to try…</p>

<p>And UNH may be a little big but take a look…</p>

<p>also, come on over and post in the parents forum: 3.0-3.3 thread…lots of helpful people…who won’t judge you over your stats…</p>

<p>Convolver – Just curious, but what schools has your guidance counselor suggested to you?</p>

<p>I suspect that schools that meet your criteria will largely be public colleges and universities. Out-of-State publics, particularly at the flagship level, may well exceed the $30,000 cap you have indicated is the max you want to spend per year for college. Your best financial bet will probably be the SUNYs.</p>

<p>The advice above is very good (other than NJsoccer, who clearly has problems much more serious than your SATs). With tuition, remember, it is the net cost, not the sticker price that matters–do you qualify for aid? If so, there are tools on this site and others to help you get an idea of your net cost. Some schools, such as Elmira, are very upfront on their websites about generous merit aid, too.</p>

<p>Yeah I meant 30,000 tuition, the full expenses can go over but I should receive financial aid being that I live with my single mother.</p>

<p>My guidance counselor isn’t helping much, she wants me to find them myself which I don’t entirely like. A lot of the schools suggested seem out of reach for me (according to my counselor. On my list I have schools like FSU, JMU, Auburn, Baruch, UNH, SUNY Plattsburgh/New Paltz/Buffalo, and Towson… and I even thought those were a little much. I had penn state and umass on a list and she took them off and Ithaca and Quinnipiac seem a little out of my zone, I could be wrong. </p>

<p>Thank you guys for the responses though, don’t mind NJSoccer</p>

<p>My cumulative GPA is a 86.1 which is like a 3.0-3.1 on a 4.0 scale. As a junior my average was around a 90.</p>

<p>SAT:
Math:580
Verbal:580
Writing:540
Total:1700, or 1160/1600</p>

<p>I want the size to be over 4,000 undergrads or close to it. Right now I’m undecided as to my major, but I’m leaning towards liberal arts, sciences, and psychology. I don’t care if it is public or private, I just don’t want to have to pay over 30 grand in tuition. </p>

<p>Yeah I meant 30,000 tuition, the full expenses can go over but I should receive financial aid being that I live with my single mother.</p>

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<p>I have to ask…if your mom can afford to give you $30k for tuition, why do you think you can qualify for FA for the rest? Or, is that $30k per year coming from elsewhere? Private schools (that give good aid) will want to include your dad’s income when figuring FA, so living with your mom won’t matter.</p>

<p>Auburn …COA for OOS is around $33k. So, that should work. </p>

<p>Alabama…COA for OOS is $31k and includes their fabulous housing - private rooms that are in 4 bedroom “super suites”. scroll down for all pics [Housing</a> & Residential Communities - The University of Alabama](<a href=“http://housing.ua.edu/ridgecrestsouth.cfm]Housing”>http://housing.ua.edu/ridgecrestsouth.cfm)</p>

<p>Both Alabama and Auburn have gorgeous campuses. </p>

<p>Below is the “trip report” from a CC person who visited Alabama yesterday…</p>

<p>"Just returned from 11/11 University Days - bizarre how absolutely perfect this school seems for DS! We came armed with a ton of information so this was primarily to see the campus (having never visited), just get a general feel of the place. We skipped some sessions and by asking specific questions of one of the MANY U Days staff were directed to the right places to get our questions answered. </p>

<p>Had a one-on-one with the Honors College the afternoon before, toured the new Shelby Engineering building [West</a> Side of the New SEC on Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/alabadrock/4028456314/]West”>West Side of the New SEC | West facing side of the new SEC (… | Flickr) , Fine Arts and the Rec. Center on our own, no one seemed to mind us wandering (we did check in at the front desks). </p>

<p>A huge HUGE plus, from looking at the pics and all we thought the campus would be huge, spread out and sparse, has no idea of the trees and hills, the way the buildings old and new are so well integrated with each other style-wise. </p>

<p>Had to laugh after reading about the best way to get from here to there, how to find the parking etc., it was all so accessible. We set our GPS to go find the town of Tuscaloosa on our way out, duh, it was just two blocks down from the stadium. </p>

<p>This whole place seems really manageable, crazily friendly - we can both totally picture DS attending."</p>

<p>I can’t afford it, haha. I was just considering taking out immense loans and having a ton of debt :)</p>

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<p>SAT:
Math:580
Verbal:580
Writing:540
Total:1700, or 1160/1600</p>

<p>I can’t afford it, haha. I was just considering taking out immense loans and having a ton of debt
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<p>Ok, not a good plan… </p>

<p>First off, you’d need co-signers for big loans, and many parents refuse because they are afraid that they’ll get stuck with repayment.</p>

<p>Secondly, have you “done the math” to see what the repayments would be for various student loan amounts…</p>

<p>Lastly, while you may be a good student, your stats aren’t the type to get into a top school where you “might” be earning a top salary upon graduation.</p>

<p>Remember, loan repayment begins after graduation…around age 22 and continues until you’re about 32. Those are the years that you should be “moving on” with your life, not stuck living with your parents because your loan payment preventing you from affording “rent” money.</p>

<p>For instance…and remember, these payments would be for 10 LONG YEARS…And, please, note the amount of salary that you would immediately need to start earning in order to comfortably pay back such loans (a person can only live cheaply for so long, then it gets “old”)</p>

<p>** If you were to borrow… </p>

<p>$12,500 per year ($50k total after 4 years), your monthly payment would be: $575.40
You’d need to be immediately be earning a salary of $70k to comfortably pay that off.</p>

<p>$18,000 per year ($72k total after 4 years), your monthly payment would be: $828.58
You’d need to be immediately be earning a salary of $100k to comfortably pay that off.</p>

<p>$25,000 per year ($100K total after 4 years), your monthly payment would be: $1,150.28
You’d need to be immediately be earning a salary of $138k to comfortably pay that off.</p>

<p>$50,000 COA for a private ($200k total after 4 yrs), your payment would be: $2,301.61
You’d need to be immediately be earning a salary of $276k to comfortably pay that off. **</p>

<p>Info from…[FinAid</a> | Calculators | Loan Calculator](<a href=“http://www.finaid.org/calculators/scripts/loanpayments.cgi]FinAid”>http://www.finaid.org/calculators/scripts/loanpayments.cgi)</p>

<p>AND… the higher loan amounts would likely even result in higher monthly payments since big loans usually require higher interest rates.</p>

<p>Ok…I admit…the above post is a slap in the face…but it’s a loving motherly “wake up” slap. :)</p>

<p>You do have options. You can still go to college. You need to take advantage of the fab public in-state NY schools - especially if you’re undecided about your major.</p>

<p>Pick a few of these schools that you like and that have a offering of majors. Apply to those schools. Your stats aren’t high enought to get any merit money.</p>

<p>So, which in-state schools do you like?</p>

<p>What schools do others recommend for this student?</p>

<p>Somebody came up with Roger Williams in RI. When my first daughter applied there a few years ago, they were offering generous merit aid for anyone with an SAT over 1050/1600. It is a pretty campus with a population around 5000, I think. It is right on the ocean and some very highly rated programs. Architecture and business are, I believe, in the top ten rated programs. It might be worth a look.</p>

<p>haha it’s ok, thanks for taking the time to do those stats, pretty helpful. I like SUNY buffalo,new paltz, and albany but don’t know much about any besides Buffalo. I also like Ithaca but I do not know if I can get in. I have also thought about Alfred, Plattsburgh as a safety, and CUNY Baruch. If you think those are some nice choices just let me know.</p>

<p>Ohio University, Miami University (Ohio), U of Mississippi, U of Kansas, Grand Valley State University, University of Oklahoma, Louisiana State University, University of Maine, University of Dayton, University of Scranton, West Virginia University.</p>