<p>Cur is a he, btw.</p>
<p>My cousin thinks that someone ought to make a reality TV show following kids as they go through their senior years. A version of Survivor, The Apprentice or How to Marry a Millionaire. Having never watched those - well, I did see a few minutes of Apprentice once - I can't comment. But then we could have real commercials!! :)</p>
<p>Isn't it time to put this baby to rest?</p>
<p>Curmdugeon, as far as style goes, be easy on yourself. Most of the time you can talk to people with patience and courtesy. Some folks you need to give a rap on the knuckles to get their attention. And then there are those instances where, as Major Pitcairn said at Concord Bridge, "If they want war, let it begin here." </p>
<p>Cf., it's one thing to turn the other cheek, another to turn the third cheek.</p>
<p>I'll repeat what I just posted in another thread: applicants who are ethical and informed will not apply ED if comparison of financial packages is any consideration whatsoever. Following the "me first" philosophy is flipping off every applicant who plays by the rules. I think ED is a bad notion but its merits or deficits have no bearing on how one plays by the rules.</p>
<p>P.S. SBMom, I outraged TheMom by rolling through a stop sign on a (very large) high school campus that was completely abandoned for Winter Break once. Now the sign in the middle of the Mojave is different...I would pause to look around and say "Why?"</p>
<p>Even though I am just a child...I watched how quickly that thread deterioated, and I felt ashamed of some of the parents behavior, it was worse than the worst arguements with my brother and two sisters. The discussion went from respectful to disgusting in such a short amount of time. I do hope never to find such a disgusting manner from people I look up to again on CC.</p>
<p>LOL-- like The Bachelor-- </p>
<p>"The Senior"
20 groovy seniors spend a whirlwind month with one Harvard Admission Officer. They hold spelling bees, art exhibits, mock trials and softball games... Every week a few more students bite the dust. Instead of who will get the rose & ring, it's who will get the $160,000 bill? </p>
<p>Or like Survivor-- </p>
<p>"Applicant"
20 HS seniors gather in a deserted dormitory and vie with one another to be the last one standing and gain admission to Brand X Univeristy. Watch them lick the soles of admission officers' shoes, digest immense volumes of SAT prep material, immerse themselves in midnight oil, & drag themselves across the desert of a ruined social life. See who is the lucky senior to make it all the way to admittance.</p>
<p>As one of the many targets of crumdugoen's hateful name calling, I think his general apology is a day late and a dollar short. I find it remarkable that his is permitted to remain on this board given his offensive personal attacks. Attacking one's arguments is appropriate; since crumdugeon often seems unable to counter my arguments, however, he just calls me names. I find his actions childish. </p>
<p>I also wonder if he uses other names in order to post messages on this board. If so, I think such deception is inappropriate.</p>
<p>Who are you? Are you the kid who was so impressed that at your overnight at Wash U you got to see a drunk guy get helped back to the dorm? If so, I think I called you Beavis or Butthead, and suggested you needed to adjust your thinking before college or you wouldn't be back second semester. I stand by my ,if I do say so myself,very funny post. I actually was quite proud of it and told other parents where to find it. LOL,Beavis. BTW, I don't need a second name-I'm kinda partial to this one. Another BTW-rent a sense of humor.</p>
<p>I really wish that I had refrained from peeking back in on this thread before bed. : (</p>
<p>I must be lacking in some way if I don't get the humor in calling a teenager (who is stating an honest opinion here) Beavis or Butthead. This is shameful.</p>
<p>~berurah</p>
<p>You called some kid a Butthead! Instead of offering some self-serving apology, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Obviously, you are not. I hope your daughter has better manners than you do.</p>
<p>Those who are chastizing Curmudgeon should take the time to look up the post that he referred to. I think it's much different than you're assuming.</p>
<p>Berurah, I was responding to the post directly before mine. Did you see it before posting or did you think I was talking about Valdez? If you knew that then I have a question or two.</p>
<p>As to the post above mine, what honest opinion was he presenting? That drunk students are cool reasons to pick a school? That people who call them on it are bad people? What? Go back and read his Wash U. party school posting if you want to see something I found offensive.</p>
<p>Northstarmom, he edited the post after calling some kid a Butthead. You did not see his original draft. He just admitted calling some student a Butthead. You also probably have not seen several of his offensive comments that had to be removed by the moderators.</p>
<p>NSM,</p>
<p>With all due respect, I simply cannot find any way that the above post is acceptable. I think I have been more than reasonable here and have tried to see things from everyone's unique perspective instead of rushing to judgment. But, plain rudeness is just plain rudeness. There is never any excuse for it, IMHO.</p>
<p>~b.</p>
<p>curmudgeon,</p>
<p>I was referring to post #66 on THIS thread. Regardless of what happened on any other thread, I found the reply you made to him in THIS thread inappropriate. ~b.</p>
<p>Yeah, right. Like I would edit a masterpiece. And Mods, if you're out there please respond to the accusation that that post was edited, or that any post of mine was edited by the mods for abusive language. Sheesh. Being a little vindictive, isn't he? I feel a bit like Michael Douglas in Fatal Attraction.</p>
<p>Berurah, I will apologize to you this one time , but after this don't catch my act. You won't like it. There is someway to make my posts invisible on some forums, if not on this one, please just scroll by my posts. We'll both be happier.</p>
<p>P.S. It was not a butthead ,it was "Butthead" a fictional character on a TV show, as was 'Beavis". They were the type of characters who would have had the same view of college life as the two posters I directed my conversation to on the Wash U thread.</p>
<p>It is not <em>I</em> who am owed an apology, even it if were sincere. But, I am able to "call 'em like I see 'em", just like so many others here.</p>
<p>Back to the idea of integrity. I don't see how one who feels it is fine to treat others in the manner that you apparently do can speak with any authority on the topic of integrity. ~b.</p>
<p>
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Yeah, right. Like I would edit a masterpiece.
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On 12-19-04 at 7:46 a.m. you wrote post #6 about the social scene at Wash U. You then edited it at 8:06 a.m. If you did not edit the post to avoid calling some kid a Butthead why would you then ask if I was the kid you called a Butthead? These are your words I am talking about -- not anyone else's</p>
<p>I feel quite comfortable in my skin, Berurah. I stand by my post. You may not find me ethical and I may not think the world of your grasp of right and wrong either by your previous posts. So be it, we're adults. That die is cast. I'm comfortable with my choices , but I'm sure your response to TOL's attack would be more measured than mine .</p>
<p>And TOL, I certainly admit that I addressed you and your friend at the beginning of the post as "Well, Beavis, it appears you have found Butthead". I'm happy with that. Why would I deny saying it? I'm proud of it. It was and remains funny, and apropos to the situation.</p>
<p>thinkingoutloud...Butthead is a "cultural" (umm okay MTV might be more appropriate) reference. Beavis and Butthead are two cartoon characters created by Mike Judge, who also does "King of the Hill." It is sophomoric humor, much along the lines of "Animal House" or "Jackass." Like Meathead on "All in the Family" or perhaps referring to a child as "Jeremy" of the "Zits" comic strip. Perhaps Beavis and Butthead aren't known among the cultural elite, but I am known to watch a lot of low-brow stuff. :-)</p>
<p>Well, I had to check it out and I concur that Curmudgeon's WUSTL post #6 is a finely written, heartfelt sentiment. I went to college in the 60's and I fully understand the lost weekend (semester?) syndrome. I would join in discouraging anyone from taking that route, even if it required a verbal earbox.</p>
<p>I'm not in favor of rudeness in general (polite Midwestern upbringing), but I have on a few occasions snapped at kids on this board. I always wished I hadn't as in retrospect it seems so petty. </p>
<p>Satire, irony, black-humor don't communicate well via e-mail and I HATE those smiley things. At the end of Ramadhan all of my Islamic friends and employees issue a general apology for their wrongs of the previous year. I'm beginning to think it's a good idea.</p>